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re: Surgery Was Canceled Today

Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:55 am to
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:55 am to
Are you going to get the quick snip and tuck while you are at it?

You could go ahead and get the whole gender reassignment surgery and be done with it.
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 5:10 am to
Better reimbursement for the docs is at the op center, not the hospital
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
75141 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 5:16 am to
I had my tonsils removed at age 34 as well.

Blue Bell stock took a upward shot for the next two weeks.

That taste and smell afterward. Meh.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 5:21 am to
quote:

that's some arrogant, inconsiderate shite.


No it's not.

quote:

So at 34 I'm having tonsils, adenoids and uvula removed as well as a turbonid reduction.


That's not a real surgery, it's child's play.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3749 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 5:45 am to
quote:

Better reimbursement for the docs is at the op center, not the hospital


That's what I said. This is probably why the surgery was scheduled there to begin with even if he has a condition that meant it should have been in a hospital.

His anger is being directed at the anesthesiologist that actually has his best interest in mind.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:11 am to
quote:

Is it a physician owned surgery center?


Show me one that isn't physician owned.
Posted by nguyt518
Member since Apr 2015
207 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:00 am to
Got mine taken out at like 22. Through the few surgeries I had, worse fricking pain ever.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:20 am to
How much are you coming out of pocket on this? I'll do it for $10k this afternoon.

I need like 3 hours notice to proceed though. I just have to call my mom first and have her clean out the spare bedroom and set up an OR in there. I do this 3-4 times a year for friends. Don't worry I won't lose my license to practice medicine doing this, as I am only an unlicensed doctor.
Posted by Rnmack
Member since Jun 2013
13 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:53 am to
I had the exact surgery you are. All I can say is it was the worst pain I've ever felt. Take the worst sore throat, multiply by 100, and it's worse than that. I weigh 185, and I lost 23 pounds in two weeks. Ended up back in the hospital for pain control.

I don't know where you were having this done, but I was kept in ICU after surgery for 24 hours because of the high risk of bleeding. Also, the dilaudid pain pump was the only thing that helped with the pain. I was discharged on Demerol by mouth. I drank a weeks worth of Demerol the second night home as the dilaudid wore off.

You can't eat anything hard for a week because it may cause the scabs to bleed, and you will end up back in surgery getting them cortorized again, and the healing will start over from day one.

The surgery did cure my apnea. I was able to sleep without cpap after surgery.

I wish someone would have told me about the recovery. I would have not had the surgery.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4261 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:00 am to
It sounds like you'd be better off in the hospital. I've known a couple of people that had scary experiences with anesthesia in those surgery centers.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:05 am to
You tell them man! No reason this should be done at a hospital... uh except for the fact I had a cousin die in the outpatient setting in a similar quick procedure. They said they could have saved him had they been at the hospital, but I'm sure you know best.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:38 am to
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the anesthesiologist didn't feel comfortable putting me under.


considering this is probably the most dangerous part of surgery, I'd happily agree with him. Assuming he had a valid reason of obviously.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:46 am to
Are you a difficult intubation? Were you NPO? What other health problems do you have? Did you have cardiac clearance?

Anesthesiologist never cancel cases without a good reason. He was having doubts about your safety. It is much better to be safe and cautious rather than making a mistake.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24479 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:46 am to
quote:

considering this is probably the most dangerous part of surgery, I'd happily agree with him. Assuming he had a valid reason of obviously.


I don't disagree.

What pissed me off was the timing.

My 6am surgery was confirmed at 10am and cancelled at 3:30 or 4:00 pm that afternoon. My pre-op screening was the previous Thursday. It would seem that waiting until the 11th hour as it were to cancel is kind of a dick move, especially when you have made arrangements regarding work and after surgery car and other people has as well.

Seems courtesy is in short supply at this particular surgical center.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:47 am to
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I would be pissed but at the same time, if your airway is compromised in that setting, you're fricked. That being said, it should have been scheduled at a hospital surgery dept. from the beginning.



This.

Anesthesiologists, while grossly overpaid, are over-worriers for a damn good reason. And this surgery should absolutely not be at an outpatient clinic. What the hell is your surgeon thinking?
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:50 am to
You are very lucky the anesthesia person had the balls to stand up to your surgeon. The tonsils and adenoids are not the problem, the uvuloplasty is. You will be at high risk for hemorrhage, not to mention the high risk for your airway closing off due to swelling. Nause with vomiting after surgery is very common, and usually not a big deal, but with this type of surgery and some other conditions, it can cost you your life. You don't want to be at home, when you are the center of a code situation. Be smarter than your surgeon.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:55 am to
I'm glad I had mine removed when I was 4 years old. I've heard it's a bitch of a procedure and recovery the older you get.

I get what you're saying though. If anything was in question, they should have caught all that leading up to it. Not at the last minute.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:56 am to
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My 6am surgery was confirmed at 10am and cancelled at 3:30 or 4:00 pm that afternoon. My pre-op screening was the previous Thursday. It would seem that waiting until the 11th hour as it were to cancel is kind of a dick move, especially when you have made arrangements regarding work and after surgery car and other people has as well.

Seems courtesy is in short supply at this particular surgical center.


The pre op screenings are done by nurses to gather some health information. These screenings are good but do not catch everything. The actual Anesthesia pre op is not fully completed until Anesthesia talks to the patient which is usually a hour before surgery. It sucks but Anesthesia can discover a major issue right before surgery that can cause the case to be canceled.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:57 am to
No, safety is in short supply at this surgery center.

Count your blessings.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24479 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:58 am to
I trust my surgeon and have for decades. He's been doing this for over 30 years and developed some of the techniques doctors around the world use today. In addition, I think he's performed this surgery over 6,000 times.

I trust his judgement. I have to...or I would never be able to do this.

Now, if the anesthesiologist does not feel comfortable -- either in himself of his staff's capabilities -- I am fine with him not assisting.

As I've said, I am not so irritated that I'm not getting cut open today as I am with the way the cancellation process was handled.
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