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re: Sub-Saharan African Civilizations
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:17 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:17 am to SuperSaint
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hate to break it to you but those baws wasn't white
But see, I was making a jo... Nevermind.
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:30 am to UFFan
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Couldn't you ask the same question about the Mojave Desert or something?
You ever heard of Sub Majavan?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:44 am to SuperSaint
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Pretty good podcast that addresses the geographical limitations of the region which are exacerbated by the relatively low natural resources.
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If you're interested in this stuff, Germs, Guns, and Steel is a pretty good book on it. It looks like there might be a documentary about with that title as well now.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:51 am to OysterPoBoy
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What made the desert stop where it does? Is there a river or something?
it has to do with how the air circulates globally. deserts are usually in the mid-latitudes where the air is dry because it dumped all its precipitation in the equatorial regions, where you tend to find rainforests.
other deserts can be created by being on the leeward side of mountain ranges. same idea, smaller scale.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:51 am to SuperSaint
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This Youtube video goes into detail over it
Water is a big issue. Lack of ports, navigable rivers, and spread of drinking water.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:53 am to UFFan
Africa has more coastline usable year round than any other continent, yet no sub-Saharan civilization made a boat that could go more than 100 yards offshore. So, yeah, not impressive.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:56 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Africa has more coastline usable year round than any other continent,
And almost no rivers (especially navigable ones) leading to those coasts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Since river craft and ocean-going craft are completely different animals, other than you trying to display your pseudo-intellect for all the world to see, what exactly is your point?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:00 pm to UFFan
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Sub-Saharan African Civilizations
Maybe their civilizations weren’t impressive because they lived in a food desert
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:00 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Since river craft and ocean-going craft are completely different animals, other than you trying to display your pseudo-intellect for all the world to see, what exactly is your point?
Without rivers, there wont' be trade networks within Africa.
Without trade networks, why would the coasts develop anywhere? Any goods from outside Africa could not be transported within the continent very well, and there would be nothing coming from the continent to exchange for these imports.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:01 pm to StickyFingers
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This does not compute
Hell the sub-saharan barley makes the list.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:04 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Africa has more coastline usable year round than any other continent, yet no sub-Saharan civilization made a boat that could go more than 100 yards offshore. So, yeah, not impressive.
There is speculation the Songhai sailed to South America before the Europeans.
regardless, your 100 yards offshore comment is way off base.
Mansa Abu Bakr II (Malian, Songhai predecessor) made a fleet of 2,000 ships to sail across the Atlantic in 1311
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:13 pm to UFFan
4 bans.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:17 pm to Bullfrog
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ETA: It is no coincidence that everyone is now dead that was chasing Rommel there.
Or that it was 80 years ago meaning the youngest would be damn near 100 years old
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:20 pm to SuperSaint
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Not a podcast but Prisoners of Geography goes into great detail why resource rich Subsaharan Africa didn’t develop like the northern portion of the continent
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:21 pm to geauxjuice
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other deserts can be created by being on the leeward side of mountain ranges. same idea, smaller scale.
America southwest
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:23 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Africa has more coastline usable year round than any other continent,
And exactly 1 natural deep water port that was large enough for cargo vessels back in the 1500’s. Everything else is extensively man made.
Compare that to the rocky coasts of the US where it seems like every town is built on a natural deep water port.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Since river craft and ocean-going craft are completely different animals, other than you trying to display your pseudo-intellect for all the world to see, what exactly is your point?
That the cheapest and most efficient way to move goods and people is over water. Over land takes incredibly long and is significantly less efficient than barges or cargo ships.
Not having navigable rovers leads to pockets of isolated communities, preventing the coalescing of peoples, distribution of labor, and the scale achievable through these two occurrences.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:05 pm to Slippy
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They say that humans sprang up and evolved in sub-Saharan Africa and then dispersed to the ends of the earth.
The first thing man did when he could stand upright is figure out a way to get the hell out of Africa.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:32 pm to Slippy
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They say that humans sprang up and evolved in sub-Saharan Africa and then dispersed to the ends of the earth.
There’s a lot of interesting theories out there on the evolution of humans and race. If you believe in God and angels and such you can really get down a rabbit hole
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