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re: study that found hydroxychloroquine ineffective (and stopped trials of it) was made up

Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:33 am to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:33 am to
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Trap? It’s a completely irrelevant question that has nothing to do with this thread.


No, it’s relevant. The relevant point is innocent lives saved.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26160 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:34 am to
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TH03


You have been in quite an argumentative mood lately. I guess living in a Clay Jenkins county is catching up with you.

I will try to get a babe thread put together to get your internet badass on



This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:44 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76209 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:35 am to
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Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, h

Damn, it is even easier to get government grants than I ever thought! Hell, the OT should be able to get 10-15 million to study something or the other.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:36 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:36 am to
You are such a weird person.

I do appreciate you finally changing from sawyer to T Woods though.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:39 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:39 am to
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No, it’s relevant. The relevant point is innocent lives saved.


People dying of covid weren’t just healthy then dead though. Acting like HCQ could’ve saved so many lives is disingenuous because those people were going to die regardless.

I’ve also said repeatedly that this movement should be citizens vs police, not white cop vs black lives so the “trap” is directed at the wrong person.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:40 am to
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I’m seeing people already call this a massive academic and medical scandal



People... Facebook and the PT regulars?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97289 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:40 am to
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Acting like HCQ could’ve saved so many lives is disingenuous because those people were going to die regardless.


let's not try to play this off as fact. It very well could have saved significant lives.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:47 am to
I’m not passing anything off as fact. I’m going off the opinion of this board. That’s my entire point, people are falling over themselves to shift their stance based on how it fits the specific argument. OP is a prime candidate of being selective with the severity of covid. Act like it’s a nothingburger, just the flu one minute, but now countless lives were risked because we didn’t get HCQ out to everyone. Even though the board has been saying the truth that most people who died were elderly and/or had serious preexisting conditions.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:49 am to
It is relatively a nothing burger for people in good health. But its also deadly for elderly and at risk people. And while no evidence that HCQ was going to cure everyone in the at risk category it's reasonable to think some lives could have been saved.

I actually don't see the contradiction you are trying to insinuate.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26160 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:50 am to
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It very well could have saved significant lives.


This is true and should not be lost in these rants.

Island Buckeye posted a story how a father and son died on his Island from COVID. They refused a treatment from the doctors of HCQ, because the media told them it would kill them.

To summarize
-The doctors were open to trying HCQ
-They did not want it, per media scare
-They are now dead

Would HCQ have saved them, we will never know. The doctors were willing to try it.

Cause of death should be US Media though.
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4959 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:51 am to
how many people of color (POC) have needlessly died because they were not given HCQ treatment vs. how many were killed in police custody since the beginning of the pandemic?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:52 am to
chad fricking pwnd you bro
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11654 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:53 am to
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It very well could have saved significant lives.

If it could save one life...

Could have saved as few as a hundred, could have saved tens of thousands, but it discredited Trump and allowed big daddy government to keep the fearmongering alive, so it was ran with. Just imagine what the US would look like if people on both sides of the aisle saw their own hypocrisies and actually amended their beliefs to alleviate them.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97289 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:54 am to
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but it discredited Trump and allowed big daddy government to keep the fearmongering alive


Yeah im trying to think of the company's rationale behind falsifying that study. I honestly can't think of one reason other than trying to discredit Trump.

Imagine hating someone so much that you are willing to risk lives just to make him look wrong on one solitary topic.

It's just sad man.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:55 am to
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Probably very few. Why are we acting like covid is super bad now that it’s convenient for this thread?


quote:

TH03


You’ve been a bigger contrarian bitch than normal lately. What gives?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:56 am to
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I actually don't see the contradiction you are trying to insinuate.


How? I just spelled it out.

“They were old and dying before, they would’ve died without covid anyways.”

“Wow, how many of those lives could’ve been saved with HCQ?!?”
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:57 am to
Insightful rebuttal. Really makes you think.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:57 am to
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an adult-content model,

Uummm. I feel like the OT has failed with over 2 pages in and know one has asked.

Pics? (Assuming its a female).

Edit: Dammit I didn't see saint tiger225's post.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86747 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:59 am to
You can’t think of any other reason? Really?

The most obvious reason would be that they were paid by some other drug manufacturer.

Not everything is about Trump.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:00 pm to
And just as quietly, WHO starts using it again.... CNBC
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 12:00 pm
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