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re: Study: recommendations for moderate exercise may be 3-4x too low for heart benefits

Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4542 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:56 pm to
Those Sunday long runs just got a little longer
Posted by rockford177
Virginia
Member since Feb 2008
828 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:26 pm to
Come follow me around and speak with my 90 year old patients. First thing out of their mouth when asked how they are doing is “Terrible”!!!
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2384 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:31 pm to
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Bro, if you don’t want to do it or physically can’t, fine.

Bro, I'm not telling people what they can or can't do. I'm over 50. My office is on the 4th floor of an office building and I take the stairs up and down multiple times a day. I always said that I'm not handicap and I will take the stairs instead of the elevator. As for running, it's definitely a lot harder that just 10 years ago. My knees and shins can't take much more than one mile at a time, so brisk walking for me mostly.
Posted by Rds21275
Member since Sep 2024
358 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:41 pm to
I bet he drives a Cataract!
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38133 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:43 pm to
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I'd be willing. My back won't be though. Also my foot, considering it loves a good stress fracture.


Throw knees in there, just for good measure.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2799 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:51 pm to
If I’m allowed to include the time spent in sauna/steam room and cold plunge, might get within neighborhood of total. Those increase heart rates and have similarities with brisk walking.

Maybe 20% of total vigorous with 80% moderate.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103488 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:54 pm to
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My back won't be though. Also my foot, considering it loves a good stress fracture.


You sound fat
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Coming from someone who runs every day, this is an absurd amount of exercise in a week for the average human. Hell, more than average human.

Just a stupid "study".


Keep in mind that "moderate" exercise means something like brisk walking. Studies usually call workout classes, running, lifting, etc. "vigorous" exercise and count it as double. 90 minutes a day of brisk walking for 30%+ reduction in cardiac episodes seems right when you consider that.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57000 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:14 pm to
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My mother died at 85 after a prolonged illness. My dad is 90 and in poor health. From my perspective, an extended longevity is not a desirable outcome

The benefits of being fit include an extended middle age. You are likely to get the shitty ending no matter what. But if you are fit, your middle age will go far into what is normally considered elderly, and your bad ending will likely be three to six months.

The book Outlive gives a great statistical look at it, as well as great advice on how to manage it.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 2:15 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Bro, I'm not telling people what they can or can't do. I'm over 50. My office is on the 4th floor of an office building and I take the stairs up and down multiple times a day. I always said that I'm not handicap and I will take the stairs instead of the elevator. As for running, it's definitely a lot harder that just 10 years ago. My knees and shins can't take much more than one mile at a time, so brisk walking for me mostly.
My comment was towards your assertion that the recommendation is "more than most people's bodies will allow."

Maybe you'e right. I don’t think that's true, but if it is, and the majority of humanity is literally physically incapable of a two hour walk, then frick everything. We’re done.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:40 pm to
Same, I take the stairs and walk it whenever I can. Otherwise I ride a bike for exercise which is easy on the joints and less boring than a stationary machine.

The amount of cardio this article calls for is simply not realistic for people with full time jobs, kids, etc. You can only be a workout warrior if you have the time.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40108 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:48 pm to
2200 steps = 1 mile for me.


My avg is around 10K per day.

Obviously, not all at a exercise rate, but just moving that much per day is pretty key.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10114 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:58 pm to
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My mother died at 85 after a prolonged illness. My dad is 90 and in poor health. From my perspective, an extended longevity is not a desirable outcome.


The extension is so you push everything back.

My dad never exercised. Ever. I feel a lot better at 33 than he did.

The end is going to be painful. There's no way around it. But I'll take feeling 15% better throughout my entire life.

It's not just about extending life. Have you ever buckled down, ate clean, and exercised for a couple of months? I'm sure you have. It feels fricking amazing.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2384 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 7:04 am to
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My comment was towards your assertion that the recommendation is "more than most people's bodies will allow."

Maybe you'e right. I don’t think that's true, but if it is, and the majority of humanity is literally physically incapable of a two hour walk, then frick everything. We’re done.

All good. What I was referring to mostly was that this rec is for ~2 hrs/day. While I believe that, the other thing is that it's more of a time thing.
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