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Study finds higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19

Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:11 pm
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Coronavirus patients taking hydroxychloroquine, a treatment touted by President Trump, were no less likely to need mechanical ventilation and had higher deaths rates compared to those who did not take the drug, according to a study of hundreds of patients at US Veterans Health Administration medical centers.


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“We performed a retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in all United States Veterans Health Administration medical centers until April 11, 2020,”


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About 28 percent who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11 percent of those getting routine care alone.



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This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:13 pm to
I’m really getting tired of not being able to know a damn thing.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36709 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:13 pm to
Pretty sure that it’s in there that the meds were started too late now already were on the vent. Earlier the better.

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23312 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:14 pm to
Maybe it’s because they only gave it to the patients who were worse off?

Fake news gonna fake news

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"The findings should not be viewed as definitive because the analysis doesn’t adjust for patients’ clinical status and showed that hydroxychloroquine alone was provided to VA’s sickest COVID-19 patients, many times as a last resort."


From this very same article
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5014 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:14 pm to
Did you sleep for 3 days straight, wake up, read this article and come post it on TD?
Posted by hombreman9
USA
Member since Feb 2009
3781 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:14 pm to
This is going to make it a lot harder to price gouge the hydroxychloroquine I hoarded.
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:14 pm to
Actually sad.. I was hoping it would be a promising drug.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:15 pm to
Was this study blind, or did they only prescribe hydroxy to the sicker patients?

It would seem since this is a retrospective study then they have no clue as to why the doctors decided to prescribe the drug when they didn't on others.

Maybe supply was limited so the thought was to preserve the drug and only use it in worst case scenarios. Worst case scenarios probably lead to more deaths, right?

Maybe I am missing this though

Or maybe that is why they did a press release on their findings even though it wasn't peer reviewed or published. And also since one of the leaders has some significant conflicts.


Not sure what the real results were, but frick this is a bad clickbait study.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:15 pm to
Seems like people like to choose one study over another for whatever their reasons. Funny how every article about the bad outcomes love to trot out some comment about Trump. Wonder why that is.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:15 pm to
We can’t let the facts creep in! Orange Man Bad!
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28406 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:16 pm to
so now we're taking small incomplete studies as truth?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37527 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:17 pm to
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Was this study blind, or did they only prescribe hydroxy to the sicker patients?


How dare you ask questions!!!!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37527 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:17 pm to
Only if they make trump look bad.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9426 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:18 pm to
because only the most ill get this treatment and they have a higher mortality rate anyway.

You're dumb.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:18 pm to
Conducted at VA hospitals where basic care sucks. Not double blind study, very small study group, and has not undergone peer review.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27174 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:18 pm to
Wow

Another article by some media outlet trying to push an agenda. Don’t care if you are on or off the HQ saves lives side, one limited study means nothing.

Anyone can manipulate numbers into something that benefits their cause.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm to
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How dare you ask questions!!!!

this is quite hypocritical fwiw
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm to
Why would I trust the VA
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm to
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Another article by some media outlet trying to push an agenda.


It'a from foxnews.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17923 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:19 pm to
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Seems like people like to choose one study over another for whatever their reasons.

Well, at least in these studies everyone isn't dying. The obscenely high "cure" rate touted in the pro hcq studies were obviously bogus af, to anyone not wearing orange tinted glasses.
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