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re: Student loan delinquencies surge back after 5-year pause

Posted on 5/14/25 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69828 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 3:34 pm to
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Clearly a defense mechanism.


that’s right.

we definitely DO NOT have any statistics or metrics, whatsoever, that would lead us to believe that certain demographics aren’t productive peaceful members of our American society. NOPE.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34121 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Majority is a mixture of people who just don't want to and those that took out absolutely ludicrous amounts of money to major in things that have no realistic prospect of earning potential to match the amount of debt incurred.


I didn't take out loans because I paid my way and borrowed what I needed from my parents, but don't a lot of students take out loans to pay their rent, spending money, etc, thinking "I'll pay it back when I have a job and make a lot of money "way" down the road"?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34121 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 3:38 pm to
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It's almost like when people start getting something for free they come to expect it. Who woulda thunk it?

Receiving any money on these loans is better than the previous situation of receiving zero money. Enforce the terms of the agreement on these assholes and send a message...it's not a bunch of weak betas in office anymore, there are consequences.


Any of the 8 progs that downvoted this care to help me understand why?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
1188 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 4:07 pm to
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we definitely DO NOT have any statistics or metrics, whatsoever, that would lead us to believe that certain demographics aren’t productive peaceful members of our American society. NOPE.

I don't remember disputing stats. The world doesn't solely consist of either/or.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14355 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:50 pm to
Make student loans dischargable in bankruptcy would be a nice start.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22743 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:53 pm to
Wage garnishment, limit access to items over a certain monetary value until the money is paid.
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
3916 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:54 pm to
Education should be free. A country should invest in it's youth not burden them with a lifelong bill for trying to better themselves...which ultimately helps all of us.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:20 pm to
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A final decision on what? I haven’t seen anything stating they are getting rid of this. I have 3 years left in the program.

There is an EO about it

The bigger issue is the court case out of MO. Lots of people went into plans offered under the Biden admin and now there is an injunction nationwide stalling the system entirely. You can't even change your plan now b/c of a combination of the injunction and the EO chaos with the DOE.

Clearly this was a plan that wasn't thought out by the admin.
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1010 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:21 pm to
Collect.

Then eliminate half the higher Ed options and build communities on their old campuses.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21454 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:26 pm to
Students should have the option to defer the tuition deductions for later in life when they pay back their loan, principal and interest included and actually have substantial income to deduct taxes from.

The way it's set up now students who often have no income whatever can write off tens of thousands of dollars in deductions but have nothing to deduct.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104207 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:27 pm to
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There is an EO about it

The bigger issue is the court case out of MO. Lots of people went into plans offered under the Biden admin and now there is an injunction nationwide stalling the system entirely. You can't even change your plan now b/c of a combination of the injunction and the EO chaos with the DOE.

Clearly this was a plan that wasn't thought out by the admin.


I have two separate loans, one current in standard repayment. The other is stuck in SAVE plan purgatory. I can’t pay on it because of the court injunction and can’t move into standard repayment.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 7:28 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21454 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Education should be free.


This could work. Just don't pay the professors and then find O&M crew to work for free, too.

Don't forget about the research either, can't pay for R&D.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:40 pm to
I know people who are in the statutory IBR program (which cannot be changed via EO and wasn't part of Biden's plans) who aren't allowed in the program and can't switch. It's bonkers.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 7:40 pm
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7209 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:42 pm to
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Education should be free. A country should invest in it's youth not burden them with a lifelong bill for trying to better themselves...which ultimately helps all of us.


100%

If a student demonstrates abilities in a certain field during their middle and high school years, we should pay for that student to go to college to become a doctor, engineer, etc.

Thats what all of the liberal utopias like Norway do. You have to justify to the government why you deserve the money.

Now, how do you think that will go over here in the USA?
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 7:43 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4782 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:45 pm to
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it's not a bunch of weak betas in office anymore, there are consequences.


It was the Trump administration that started the pause on student loan repayments
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26083 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:47 pm to
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Education should be free


What do you mean “free”? Nothing is free. What you mean is funded by tax payers.

I’m not debating the merits of whether we should or not but don’t act like the colleges teach on a volunteer basis.


Wonder if you think K-12 public school is also free
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10452 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:06 pm to
When are they going to start taking money from deadbeats?

WIC, Medicaid, free Childcare, and Food Stamps are pretty damn expensive for taxpayers too.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69828 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:22 pm to
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It was the Trump administration that started the pause on student loan repayments


this post belongs next to the term “disingenuous” in the TD dictionary.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21042 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:05 pm to
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What are we going to end up doing to fix this issue?




I’m gonna buy some repo property
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13064 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:30 pm to
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What terrible ideas


Why spend money on an English literature class? What career value am I getting from that?
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 12:31 pm
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