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re: Stubhub to issue 1099s for sales above $600

Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:59 am to
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:59 am to
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This is why people hate politicians. They slip something like this into an "American Rescue Plan" without the population knowing about it because the Bills are 3k pages long and no one has time to read the legislation. Then at the last minute, when it is too late, Bam!

No new taxes on people making less than $400,000 my arse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:27 am to
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Sounds nifty but the onus is going to be on you to prove that you have no tax liability.

This is going to create a lot of paperwork for people selling their own personal property.

I got the warning a few days ago on FB when I went to check the status of my bluray LOTR trilogy I had on sale for $30.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:28 am to
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All of you “stop breaking the law, a-hole” assholes seem to break the law a lot…

Many (most?) of these sales are non-taxable b/c they involve selling personal property at a loss. The majority of people who will be hit by this new reg are just trying to sell old shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:30 am to
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So how’s this supposed to work? I know people that use Venmo to pay for splitting bills and shite. So it there are two roommates and one pays rent and the other Venmo’s them are taxes going to need to be paid?

How do they determine what transactions need to get taxed?

I think there are going to be a lot of people who don't track these things who are going to be gouged on taxes they shouldn't owe.

I am assuming that the IRS/gov will presume this is income and you have to prove it's not. Will be a nightmare for millions.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32996 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:38 am to
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I'm sure you declared every online purchase before websites started charging sales tax


I’m not a stop breaking the law a-hole, a-hole. So whether I did or not, officer, is irrelevant
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61390 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:40 am to
This puts the nail in my decision to not renew my LSU football tickets.

Not worth the record keeping hassle when I sell for a game I wouldn’t be able to attend.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12428 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:41 am to
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ETA - they should go after waiters, bartenders, and other cash tip professions too



Why do you think they want to get rid of cash and go to a digital currency? Why do you think they want to get a look at your bank account? So they can see how money actually goes in and out of it.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20657 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:45 am to
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ducktale


Are you retarded? Because that post was retarded.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:53 am to
This information will be reported on the 1099 NEC as "non employee compensation." The positive side is that any expenses associated with the sale of these tickets is a reduction of income. This means you can deduct any mileage, cellphone and internet expenses, postage costs, etc., from this income. So the IRS is going to see a lot of Schedule C's with $600 of income, but $2000 worth of expenses thus showing a business LOSS of $1400. The IRS just gave ticket scalpers a gift and don't even know it.


Schedule C
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 11:47 am
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:59 am to
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they should go after waiters, bartenders, and other cash tip professions too


They do. You are supposed to enter that on your taxes.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134753 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:01 am to
Yes, except, frick the government
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103167 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:16 am to
This just means scalpers go back to standing outside the stadium
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:21 am to
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Good

ETA - they should go after waiters, bartenders, and other cash tip professions too




Yes, lets go after those untapped tax funds instead of closing massive corporate tax loopholes and loopholes used by extremely wealthy families.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34325 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:21 am to
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the onus is going to be on you to prove that you have no tax liability.

Yeah, thats kinda how the whole tax thingy works. I list my income, then I chip away at that by claiming my deductions and credits

If they dont agree, they audit me

This is no different
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134753 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:23 am to
It’s just gonna shift even more people to take cash only. And new means of doing low level transactions. Will inconvenience a lot of people who use the apps to move money where it needs to go quickly.

God I hate these hoogoos more every day
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:24 am to
Yep, complete nonsense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:24 am to
But often this isn't income. Selling personal property at a loss isn't income.
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
3582 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:28 am to
As much as this sux (and it does) keep in mind its only the profit you make, if you have LSU tix and pay a Tradition Fund fee (as most of us do) that goes into the cost. Also stubhub started asking you to input your cost early this year.

Does anyone know if Ticketmaster is doing the same? I assume yes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:30 am to
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As much as this sux (and it does) keep in mind its only the profit you make

The problems are going to be more administrative/bureaucratic for normal people, especially people who don't keep track.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134753 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:33 am to
Right? What if I’m just loaning someone some money to cover a bill until they get paid, or paying back a loan, or really anything.

So now I have to deal with a headache and red tape and some goddamn bureaucrat?

Before, let’s say your kid is on vacation and loses their wallet or something. Needs money to rent a car, whatever

You could send money instantly Through one of the apps. Bam, done, crisis averted. Whether they paid it back or not, not really a big deal because it was just between you and the concerned party.

But now? So not only is it gonna summon some bean counter that you sent someone $700, but if they try to pay you back you’ll be called before the tribunal for that too.

There is no scum like government scum
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 9:42 am
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