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re: St.George haters getting caught in lies again
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:04 pm to tossedoff
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:04 pm to tossedoff
The parish can’t deny an area’s ability to incorporate due to the plan of government because the state constitution expressly overrules that.
Past that, I’m wondering how they will try to deny it other than claiming fraud.
Past that, I’m wondering how they will try to deny it other than claiming fraud.
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:08 pm to teke184
I just don't doubt the ruthlessness that those in the EBR govt. and the Democrat party will use to maintain power over a large pot of $$$.
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:10 pm to tossedoff
I don’t doubt the attempts but I wonder what legal means they have of doing it.
Best I see is, thanks to the transition bill being killed, JBE and/or SWB being able to appoint the officials for St George before elections are held. They would likely try to make a hash of things and/or try to sign agreements with EBR shifting inordinate amounts of legacy costs to StG.
Best I see is, thanks to the transition bill being killed, JBE and/or SWB being able to appoint the officials for St George before elections are held. They would likely try to make a hash of things and/or try to sign agreements with EBR shifting inordinate amounts of legacy costs to StG.
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:19 pm to teke184
No to St. George is good for me in the LP because of property values going up, but I hate to see people being screwed by their government too. I think the EBR govt. feels like the explosion of Central will occur on steroids with St. George and Baton Rouge proper will be decimated and they can't allow that to happen.
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:37 pm to teke184
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Best I see is, thanks to the transition bill being killed, JBE and/or SWB being able to appoint the officials for St George before elections are held.
The governor ABSOLUTELY would fill the offices.
If the people in the area vote for incorporation, the chairman of the petition will formally publish the results of the election in the parish records. If there are no legal challenges within 30 days of the publication, the municipality gets incorporated.
Revised Statutes 33:3, part D&E
The governor will then appoint the required officials who will hold the office until the next available election day for municipal elections, at which point the citizens of the newly incorporated municipality will elect their own officials.
Revised Statutes 33:6
Don't for a second think the frickery ends with the election.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 9/29/19 at 9:36 pm to lsusteve1
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To be fair,
Posted on 9/29/19 at 9:47 pm to shawnlsu
What will be the Fort Sumter of this succession?
Posted on 9/29/19 at 9:57 pm to Beef Supreme
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We are passed the tipping point. If St. George fails there will be a mass exodus. Even larger than what's been going on. In a way, voting for St. George is the only way to save the area we know as Baton Rouge.
You are 100% correct, but the anti-St. George gang is too short-sighted to realize it. St. George would keep tax dollars in EBR Parish, rather than going to Ascension and Livingston Parishes. Broome doesn't want to lose her cash cow aka white residents in south BR, but that's exactly what is gonna happen if St. George doesn't come to pass. In a sense, St. George is the last hope for an economically viable EBR Parish.
Posted on 9/29/19 at 11:55 pm to MLCLyons
Republicans may be guilty some times of bad info. Democrats are ALWAYS guilty of stealing ballot boxes and manipulating results.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:05 am to Beef Supreme
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there will be a mass exodus
Out of state or to another parish?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:59 am to Paul Allen
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Out of state or to another parish?
IMO, it continues to Ascension and Livingston parish, if not to Central City or Zachary. Walker just built a beautiful new high school with great programs and facilities & the 3 HSs in Ascension continue to gain momentum.
St George is the only hope to keep business and homes moving into south BR. WHy would an out of state business move to EBR when its employees are almost required to send their children to private/parochial schools? That doesn't work and has cost BR lots of new business in the past. A viable public school system near the business center of BR is needed IMHO to draw new business/industry to the area. Otherwise we continue on a downward spiral.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:13 am to MLCLyons
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So they've learned from Republicans?
I haven't seen many voting ballots found in the back of Republican's vehicles. The Dems on the other hand, always find them when its convenient.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:28 am to LongTime Tiger
I ain't drivin back and forth from BR to Walker every day cousin.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:47 am to genuineLSUtiger
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St. George will never be allowed to happen
Hey, its nice to see you've finally moved on from "St George will never get enough signatures to appear on the ballot".
Cheers
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:50 am to tossedoff
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the EBR govt. feels like the explosion of Central will occur on steroids with St. George
Have you not been to Siegen Lane and Airline Hwy south lately? Its a bit past the explosion stage.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:00 am to SeeeeK
Like St George pushers are lying about how much the budget is going to be and that we can afford this with no new taxes.
Its almost as if both sides of politics are untruthful go figure
Its almost as if both sides of politics are untruthful go figure
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:05 am to mindbreaker
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Like St George pushers are lying about how much the budget is going to be and that we can afford this with no new taxes.
The good news is that more taxes would be nothing NEW if you live in EBR Parish. Last I read they've been increased like 18 times or so in the past 14 years or something. Ill pay another $200.00 per year in taxes for my home value to increase 20% and not have to pay $10,000 per year to avoid having to send my kid to these awful schools that have been "getting better" for 50 years.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:13 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:14 am to LSUTigerFan247
I don't have kids and could care less about the school issue. People like me that live in st George are getting lost in this debate because of this.
The whole argument for this thing is BETTER SCHOOLS and ignore every other thing that it takes to run a city. Claiming you can be more "efficient" than literally any other city government in the country because oh I don't know. We are going to run it like a business or something is a terrible argument. I'm not against St. George but if you want me to vote for this you got to have a better plan than what is being put forth now. I'll be moving if this thing passes because the people pushing this have no idea what they are doing and it's going to fail spectacularly
The whole argument for this thing is BETTER SCHOOLS and ignore every other thing that it takes to run a city. Claiming you can be more "efficient" than literally any other city government in the country because oh I don't know. We are going to run it like a business or something is a terrible argument. I'm not against St. George but if you want me to vote for this you got to have a better plan than what is being put forth now. I'll be moving if this thing passes because the people pushing this have no idea what they are doing and it's going to fail spectacularly
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:15 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:35 am to mindbreaker
Call your councilman and ask them if the parish can provide services. They cannot and even councilman Amoroso admitted this to me.
Let’s see
- parish roads not maintained
Drive down Baringer Foreman road heavily traveled and the slowly patch it when it needs to be repaved.
- ditches not cleaned to help reduce flooding
- garbage service failing to do its job when the contract has rules that are not followed.
How many meetings they had and the service has not been fixed.
- 1 building inspector for the whole parish
- after the flood new construction permits were issued while residents trying to rebuild had to fight for theirs.
- big fight over curfew by the sheriff when he was trying protect neighborhoods during the 2016 flood. This shows the parish is way too big and city and parish have different needs. Having a city which could have enacted the curfew after the 2016 flood allows city of BR to not be affected by the curfew.
- 6 plus years to get ditches and canals clean while the metro council votes swiftly to find federal grant money plus local tax dollars for a grocery store in food deserts.
Seems to me they got their priorities in the wrong place.
I will take a monkey throwing poop at a board with solutions on it. Probably better than a metro council that cannot even fix garbage issues when they have a contract that states how to fix the problem.
Let’s see
- parish roads not maintained
Drive down Baringer Foreman road heavily traveled and the slowly patch it when it needs to be repaved.
- ditches not cleaned to help reduce flooding
- garbage service failing to do its job when the contract has rules that are not followed.
How many meetings they had and the service has not been fixed.
- 1 building inspector for the whole parish
- after the flood new construction permits were issued while residents trying to rebuild had to fight for theirs.
- big fight over curfew by the sheriff when he was trying protect neighborhoods during the 2016 flood. This shows the parish is way too big and city and parish have different needs. Having a city which could have enacted the curfew after the 2016 flood allows city of BR to not be affected by the curfew.
- 6 plus years to get ditches and canals clean while the metro council votes swiftly to find federal grant money plus local tax dollars for a grocery store in food deserts.
Seems to me they got their priorities in the wrong place.
I will take a monkey throwing poop at a board with solutions on it. Probably better than a metro council that cannot even fix garbage issues when they have a contract that states how to fix the problem.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:50 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:41 am to SeeeeK
The St. George vote is going to be very close. It seems like the people are split 50/50. Personally I think it would work if the leaders in BR would give it a fair shot, but as we've seen they are doing everything in their power to make it fail. And as someone else mentioned in this thread, even if it does pass I could see the leaders in BR doing things just to spite St. George. Because of this I'm a lot less confident that it will end up being what the people want it to be.
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