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re: St.George haters getting caught in lies again

Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:51 am to
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32320 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:51 am to
I don’t have kids in the school system either, I already paid out the nose to provide them a quality education, and I couldn’t be a stronger proponent of this. Property values will increase and so will services. We’ve spent many years with EBR government playing Robin Hood with our money, and our current racist mayor is taking it to new heights.

Together Baton Rouge is a bunch of paid activists from out of state, paid disciples of Saul Alinsky that need to GTFO of our community and go back to whatever rocks they live under. And The Advocate is run by a raving liberal businessman from New Orleans, he doesn’t have any skin in this game either. In fact, the newspaper and DumBel Edwards being against it should be reason enough for residents to pass it overwhelmingly.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:53 am to
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I'll be moving if this thing passes


Need help packing? You have about 13 days to get ready.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:54 am to
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Let’s see
- parish roads not maintained
Drive down Baringer Foreman road heavily traveled and the slowly patch it when it needs to be repaved.
- ditches not cleaned to help reduce flooding
- garbage service failing to do its job when the contract has rules that are not followed.
How many meetings they had and the service has not been fixed.
- 1 building inspector for the whole parish
- after the flood new construction permits were issued while residents trying to rebuild had to fight for theirs.
- big fight over curfew by the sheriff when he was trying protect neighborhoods during the 2016 flood. This shows the parish is way too big and city and parish have different needs. Having a city which could have enacted the curfew after the 2016 flood allows city of BR to not be affected by the curfew.
- 6 plus years to get ditches and canals clean while the metro council votes swiftly to find federal grant money plus local tax dollars for a grocery store in food deserts.
Seems to me they got their priorities in the wrong place.

I will take a monkey throwing poop at a board with solutions on it. Probably better than a metro council that cannot even fix garbage issues when they have a contract that states how to fix the problem.


I don't disagree with any of this.

except for
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I will take a monkey throwing poop at a board with solutions on it.


incorporating into the fifth biggest city in the state is a HUGE deal. It isn't something I or anyone else should take lightly. Unfortunately it seems like proponents of this are doing just that. They are taking the screw you, you suck I'm taking my ball and going home approach. But, they are taking a path home they have never traveled before and it may very well have a cliff on it.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:55 am to
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The St. George vote is going to be very close


I disagree wholeheartedly. I see it being about 70-30 in favor...at worst 60-40. I'd bet money that there is no chance it fails.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:55 am to
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Property values will increase and so will services.


there is absolutely ZERO data backing this statement up.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:56 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:57 am to
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I'm taking my ball and going home approach


Going home from what? They aren't leaving the parish.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:00 am to
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Going home from what? They aren't leaving the parish.



sorry I forget you have to spell it out for some people on here

quote:

fig·ure of speech - noun - a word or phrase used in a non-literal sense for rhetorical or vivid effect.
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6786 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:01 am to
So being so damn dramatic. Fifth largest city in the state is small potatoes- this isn’t freaking Texas and a city like Ft Worth (5th largest in Texas). This is about the city of BR losing it’s gravy train and an unincorporated area of the parish wanting control over its taxes. Period. Everything else is posturing.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:06 am to
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So being so damn dramatic. Fifth largest city in the state is small potatoes- this isn’t freaking Texas and a city like Ft Worth (5th largest in Texas). This is about the city of BR losing it’s gravy train and an unincorporated area of the parish wanting control over its taxes. Period. Everything else is posturing.



So tell me where I'm wrong. The budget proposed has already shown to be largely inaccurate. The police budget has already shown to be completely inadequate from ST. George estimates. No plan for roads or infrastructure at all which is badly needed. Who handles water, sewer, garbage since I'm on BRwater services right now? We are just going to assume they keep us going after a contentious split. Can we just spring that service up from the middle of nowhere?

Yet every time I bring up these issues to ST George supporters all I get is BETTER SCHOOLS and eh we'll figure it out.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:08 am to
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sorry I forget you have to spell it out for some people on here


Even as a "figure of speech", your post made zero sense. An unincorporated area is deciding rather it wants to become its own city or continue to be taken advantage of. They aren't leaving anything it's currently a part.

The area is tired of seeing it's tax dollars squandered or used to fund areas that bring nothing to the table. The powers that be are fighting this tooth and nail because of money and power. They want the money with giving zero power to the area.

BR could have avoided all of this had it simply let the area have it's school district. Instead, they were too hard headed, spent more than the city brought in and it's time for them to reap what they sow.

Again, need help packing? I'm sure someone would love to buy property now, less than 2 weeks, before property values double.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:09 am to
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I'll be moving if this thing passes because the people pushing this have no idea what they are doing and it's going to fail spectacularly


So it worked for Central and Zachary and even Baker but St. George won’t be able to pull it off?

Oooookay.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:11 am to
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So it worked for Central and Zachary and even Baker but St. George won’t be able to pull it off?


Central and Zachary didn't vastly underestimate their budget, had the help and support of Baton rouge in incorporating, and did not have the population strain that St George will have.


I've also already said I'm not against St George but what is being proposed right now is absolute garbage.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 7:13 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:12 am to
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had the help and support of Baton rouge


BR was pulling the same stunt it is now on Central when they incorporated.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:15 am to
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The St. George vote is going to be very close. It seems like the people are split 50/50. Personally I think it would work if the leaders in BR would give it a fair shot, but as we've seen they are doing everything in their power to make it fail.


It was a slam dunk 4-5 months ago but the antics of Together BR seem to be working. All the ads and misinformation or flat out blatant lies seems to have pursuaded some.

Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:19 am to
Let me know when The Advocate or WBRZ actually reports this kind of news. They won’t ever with a democratic mayor or governor because they know it will negatively affect them. Maybe one day a new news forum will be created to just report news alone without political ties or money pushing agendas.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:19 am to
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It was a slam dunk 4-5 months ago but the antics of Together BR seem to be working


If it was a parishwide vote, I'd agree with you. It's far too late in the game for people not to have decided. Plus the area, in general, isn't a bunch of retards that vote based off the the letter on their ballot box. Unless the person has been living under a rock or just moved here, the residents are more informed than your avg voter.
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3838 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:28 am to
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I'll be moving if this thing passes because the people pushing this have no idea what they are doing and it's going to fail spectacularly


It sounds like you think the people marketing this thing are going to be the people running it. You will still have to elect the administration. You should move to North Baton Rouge where you would enjoy the same government and leaders you are happy with now. The good news is that property is cheap.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:29 am to
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I disagree wholeheartedly. I see it being about 70-30 in favor...at worst 60-40. I'd bet money that there is no chance it fails.






In any vote you hear from the few outspoken in this case it's the nuts that is for it. What you are seriously misjudging is the silent opponents. I'd hold off on your huge bets or you may just be holding your dick in your hand like the Dems did in 2016.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:32 am to
Most of the people against it aren’t in the proposed area. I’ve driven all over the proposed area and the majority of signs are for st George. I don’t doubt there’s a silent sector but I just find it hard to believe it doesn’t pass at this point.
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3838 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:33 am to
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Central and Zachary didn't vastly underestimate their budget, had the help and support of Baton rouge


whut
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