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re: Stanford University anti-body study finds COVID-19 more widespread than thought

Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Imagine thinking you know more than the President of the United States and the Governors of all 50 states. Each of whom are being advised by large teams of the smartest medical professionals in the country.


I feel like this condescending bullshite is better served in a thread that isn't about the results of a scientific study that points to a CFR potentially dramatically lower than the data you stubbornly refuse to reconsider yourself.

Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
14586 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:02 pm to
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That is about 0.14%... with a vaccine

There is no coronavirus vaccine yet... not sure if you’re aware.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4149 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:03 pm to
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ChiSaint
Checks out.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12065 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:03 pm to
Talking about the flu vaccine. Not coronavirus.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98060 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:03 pm to
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RUH ROH

The “men” of the OT won’t like this.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:04 pm to
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PhiTiger1764
Look, you are for shutting down the economy and ruining people’s careers and jobs for a virus with a mortality rate of roughly 0.4%

Not a big deal, just own it and not be condescending
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14586 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:05 pm to
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Talking about the flu vaccine. Not coronavirus

So your take is that once we have a vaccine it will be the same as the flu. Got it. No argument here.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Look, you are for shutting down the economy and ruining people’s careers and jobs for a virus with a mortality rate of roughly 0.4%

The rate in the US is much higher
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14586 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Look, you are for shutting down the economy and ruining people’s careers and jobs for a virus with a mortality rate of roughly 0.4%

Not a big deal, just own it and not be condescending

Incorrect. I’m ready to get back to the office and normal life. I think the vulnerable should take necessary precautions and let the vast majority get back to regular life.

I’m just not afraid to admit that it’s a deadly virus. And not the flu.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71148 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:08 pm to
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The rate in the US is much higher


Not if this study is extrapolated to reflect the rest of the United States. It's very likely, given the date provided, your or I could have been infected with this virus and we never knew it.

Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12065 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
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So your take is that once we have a vaccine it will be the same as the flu. Got it. No argument here.


Actually that is far from what I said.

What I am saying is that this is closer to 0.03% more deadly that the flu (which has a vaccine given to the vulnerable people already). Not several times deadlier like you claim.


And to your point, once we have a vaccine, the coronavirus will be several times less deadly than the flu.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
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The rate in the US is much higher
Based on?

Not based on data and the experts opinions
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13780 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
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The rate in the US is much higher


Sorry, but no. You can't compute the CFR using only "confirmed" cases in the denominator. The denominator is way way bigger than you think. This is what the study shows.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42270 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Stanford University anti-body study finds COVID-19 more widespread than thought


File this one in the “No shite Sherlock” column
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:13 pm to
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There’s been over 14,600 deaths in New York City. If every single one of the 8.7 million people in NYC have had the virus (unlikely), the death rate is about 0.17%.


Great point, bbbuuuuuttttttt let’s wait and see IF all those deaths were actually caused BY THE VIRUS. I’d bet frick NO
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:16 pm to
go to NBR and test a few thousand people and tell me what percentage have it or had it. I bet its over 25%
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4992 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Nowhere near enough for herd immunity



No shite, but if it's really this widespread (which is also supported by similar widespread testing studies that have been done in Icelend, the Netherlands, and some German towns), then the threat of "rebounds" and second waves drops significantly. And we're much further along the "curve" than basically all of the models indicate.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:19 pm to
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go to NBR and test a few thousand people and tell me what percentage have it or had it. I bet its over 25%



You'd lose all your money.

NBR is full of overweight, unhealthy people that have unchecked medical conditions like hypertension and diabetes.

If 25% of that population got COVID there would be MASSIVE influx of critical care patients from the area.

Yes this sounds racist, but it is just true.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79981 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Translation = it's likely just flu. 
It's not just like the flu. I've never seen the flu tear through nursing homes and some of the other places I'm contracted with over the last 20 years like COVID has.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75368 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:20 pm to
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.14% to .08%

Same as flu


ETA I dumb at math. Disregard
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 12:21 pm
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