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re: St Tammany school board won’t approve new CBA with teachers union

Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:26 pm to
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I have no idea what my wife makes. I don't see a penny of it.
I can't imagine not sharing that kind of thing with your spouse.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
13939 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:27 pm to
I’ve lost my give a shite meter for public education in this state..
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79961 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:28 pm to
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I know not all teachers are paid over the summer. Their salary is only paid during school year for some.


They are on salary and paid bimonthly.

Any teacher can correct me.

I also want to add if you only get paid for 10 months it’s not like you are paid less, you just didn’t budget correctly.

It’s like people who sign up for the bank that pays them Wednesday direct deposit instead of Friday.

You just run out of money sooner because you fail at budgeting.


I don’t think teachers have an excuse. You can work another job when you are off, do summer camps, etc.. that’s extra money whether you divide your teaching salary over 12 or 10 months.


Who else gets that opportunity?


This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21337 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:30 pm to
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I can't imagine not sharing that kind of thing with your spouse.


We have separate checking accounts. She covers the family's health, dental, and vision insurance through her employer. Anything after that is hers. She also contributes to her retirement plan. She isn't making a whole lot after all that.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
71003 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:33 pm to
I know her salary amount $49,000 give or take.
But we never combined money. That was my choice.
It worked out great for me I lost nothing in the divorce but a car I had $8k in and she made payments on.
She was in public school and would work summer school to get paid in July.

Or maybe that was when she taught at catholic school. I don't think she played me because she still paid for a lot. I just would pick up the bag on vacations. I paid all the bills except water. I made a lot more than her though.
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
3274 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:51 pm to
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If I’m the superintendent this morning I updated my resume.


He’s a nepo baby. His dad was a big wig in the school system. Made the meteoric rise from football coach to principal to effing superintendent after an alleged nationwide search.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79961 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:56 pm to
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She was in public school and would work summer school to get paid in July.


But she got paid for July.

49/12 or 10 still adds back up to 49k. What she got paid for summer school is extra.

If she worked another job, she doesn’t get that second job just for July.

Could you say I don’t get paid enough? Sure. But it being paid over 10 vs 12 is your own budgeting issue.

I looked it up and depending on the district people were saying they were offered their salary over 10 or 12 months.


This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:58 pm
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
8246 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:02 pm to
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They are on salary and paid bimonthly.


This would mean they’re paid once every two months. I doubt that seriously.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21337 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:03 pm to
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This would mean they’re paid once every two months. I doubt that seriously.


It can also mean twice a month.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 7:25 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79961 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:04 pm to
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This would mean they’re paid once every two months. I doubt that seriously.


I thought so too, that’s why I asked anyone to correct me.


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Most teachers are on salary and are paid either bimonthly or monthly. In many school districts you can elect to take your pay only over the school year OR to have a monthly amount held back (the equivalent of the summer months) and receive a “summer check” which is the equivalent of being paid over the whole year.Jul 1, 2023



This means they are getting paid twice a month or once a month.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
14192 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:04 pm to
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they enjoy their 3 month summer taxpayer funded vacation


Along with the other time off throughout the school year which equates another month off ( Mardi gras, spring break, fall break, Thanksgiving , Christmas etc)

There are not many full-time jobs out there where you get a 1/3 of the year off
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39277 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:27 pm to
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It can also mean twice a month.


That’s called semimonthly
Posted by IMJ127
Death Valley
Member since Jul 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:34 pm to
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Oh boy...here come the teacher gripes while they enjoy their 3 month summer taxpayer funded vacation sipping Pina Coladas by the pool. Their griping falls on my deaf ears. Get back to work in 3 weeks and focus on your job and the kids. Don't be selfish.


You should really stfu if you don't know what you're talking about. Rule 1 for life dude.

Teachers are paid for their months of work. That total is then divided by 12 and paid throughout the year.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21030 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Back in December the school board authorized the superintendent to negotiate a new CBA. They worked on it for 6 months. Presented to school board last night for ratification. They discuss in exec session then come out and vote it down 9-4.

They then say there will be no new CBA and they direct the superintendent to create an employee handbook using the CBA as a starting point.

Seems like the board no longer wants to have to negotiate with the union to change employee policies.

The weird thing is the superintendent response


Is there a legit contract or is this just one of those teachers union organization that wants to push policy but has no contractual basis. Saying there is a CBA alludes to a contract.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19489 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by Matthew Foley
Member since Apr 2021
48 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:44 pm to
A little clarity on all this.
Teachers are paid in St. Tammany every two weeks all throughout the year, pretty much like every other government official.
Unlike other government employees, such as my wife who has been teaching in the parish for more than ten years, they haven’t gotten a raise in as long. That’s a pretty big problem as of late. That’s why this union deal failing is such a big deal, and a huge slap in the face of all the people who take of our children all day
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21030 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:45 pm to
Here is more to the story...

https://www.stpsb.org/connect/news/featured-news/~board/news/post/collective-bargaining-agreement-cba-update-from-superintendent-jabbia-1720488291373

quote:

Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) Update for STPPS Employees
After discussions at the July 8th Special Board Meeting, the School Board voted to not accept the proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement between the St. Tammany Federation of Teachers and School Employees.

The School Board wants the ability to set policy without having to negotiate a contract with the Federation. The district administration will work closely with employees through the established Teacher and Support Employee Councils to get input and create a framework for policies and procedures for STPPS employees.

Employees will receive the one-step increase and the state provided stipend- just as they would have under the proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement. In addition, the Board took action to implement longevity pay for all employees. This addition to the salary schedule will provide employees with an additional step for every five years of employment. Employees will continue to have liability insurance through the School System, as they always have. Union employees will have dental coverage through the Federation until January 1, 2025. The School System will be exploring a self-insured dental plan to provide all employees with dental coverage after that date at no additional cost to employees.

"We are committed to working closely with the School Board and our employee groups to do what is in the best interest of all of our employees as we transition to a new framework that does not involve a collective bargaining agreement with the Federation,” said Superintendent Frank Jabbia. “I want to reassure employees that we will continue to move forward with all employees in mind as we work towards our shared goals.”

“This decision was not taken lightly, but I believe this is truly in the best interest of all of our employees,” said Board President James Braud. “I am not willing to turn over the policy making abilities of this School Board to the Federation. We should have all employees and the public involved in the making of these decisions, not just the dues paying members of the union.”

An employee handbook and additional information will be provided to employees in the near future.

2024-2025 STPPS Approved Teacher Incentives
Current teachers are eligible for one-time salary incentives and annual stipends as follows:

Salary Incentives

Current STPPS teachers who earn new certification or transfer to teach in Special Education (SWE) will receive an additional two steps ($1,000)
Current STPPS teachers who are not certified in a Special Education (SWE) or critical shortage area but agree to go on Out-of-Field Authorization (OFAT) will earn one additional step ($500)
$1,000 Advanced Degree Salary Increase for each advanced degree earned while employed in STPPS
Annual Stipends

$1,000 Annual Effectiveness Stipend
$500 Annual Stipend for Teaching Critical Shortage Area (Special Education/SWE Teachers and Certified teachers teaching on an OFAT are not eligible for the critical shortage demand stipend)*
$500 Annual Stipend for Teaching at UIR and CIR schools
Annual Stipend from Employee Salary Reserve Fund if applicable
New STPPS Teacher Incentives
Salary increases are offered to teachers new to STPPS. These are permanent increases in salary, not one-time bonuses.

First-year teachers, and teachers new to STPPS with prior experience, will start with a salary reflecting an additional two steps. This results in a $1,000 salary increase.
Certified Special Education (SWE) teachers new to STPPS will receive an additional two steps ($1,000). This results in a total of four steps when combined with the two step new teacher incentive. This results in a $2,000 salary increase.
New teachers who are not certified in Special Education (SWE) or a critical shortage area but agree to go on Out-of-Field Authorization (OFAT) will earn one additional step ($500). This results in a total of three steps when combined with the two step new teacher incentive. This results in a $1,500 salary increase.
Annual Stipends - New STPPS teachers may be eligible to receive stipends in the 2025 - 2026 fiscal year.

$1,000 Annual Effectiveness Stipend
$500 Annual Stipend for Teaching Critical Shortage Area (Special Education/SWE Teachers and Certified teachers teaching on an OFAT are not eligible for the critical shortage demand stipend)
$500 Annual Stipend for Teaching at Eligible Schools
Annual Stipend from Employee Salary Reserve Fund if applicable
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24537 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:50 pm to
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they enjoy their 3 month summer taxpayer funded vacation


You really do not understand how 9 month employees get paid. They get paid for 9 months of work spread over 12 months. They DO NOT get paid for 12 months of pay and only work 9 months.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
653 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:57 pm to
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He’s a nepo baby. His dad was a big wig in the school system. Made the meteoric rise from football coach to principal to effing superintendent after an alleged nationwide search.


That explains so much. He’s not very eloquent. His robocalls sound like Matt Foley is leaving a voicemail.

Posted by Matthew Foley
Member since Apr 2021
48 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:59 pm to
I left no such voicemail

But I have heard them on my wife’s phone…. Rough
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 8:01 pm
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