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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27481 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:48 am to
Of course, do we really know that the cop told them to get off the street? Is this the friend's story?
Posted by Sl4m
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
3717 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:48 am to
Unless a person has an attorney with them to know the full extent of the law it's foolish to chance it.

Why even provoke police knowing some don't have good intentions?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134675 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Of course, do we really know that the cop told them to get off the street? Is this the friend's story?



We don't really know anything for fact.

And yes, that is the friend's story.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:49 am to
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This will never happen and you know it.

Cops make orders every day that aren't based in law. They have come to expect those orders to be obeyed because of their badge. That isn't a good situation.
Posted by RDRGeaux09
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
1186 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:49 am to
It's the friend that was with him. That's the story he's telling.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:49 am to
How about I take the route of believing the police story 100% like you guys have taken the route of believing the friends' account 100%. This kid assaulted an officer and tried to take his gun, his death was justified in the eyes of the law. /thread
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Of course, do we really know that the cop told them to get off the street? Is this the friend's story?


Yeah. I think this part of the story is bullshite. The kid had reportedly snatched some cigars or something from the QT.
Posted by PintobeansnCornbread
Member since Jan 2014
319 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:50 am to
A few years back there was an incident involving Maplewood Police chasing an African American motorist that the cop claimed attempted to run him over. They pursued him all the way into North St. Louis with the assistance of STL's finest and caught him when he fell on the side of a building on Martin Luther King Dr. 3 officers subsequently proceeded to beat the crap out of this man. One of the three cops was an African American and they didn't stop until one of the cops looked up in the air and saw Fox2news broadcasting the beat-down live for everyone to see. I kid you not this is a true story.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:51 am to
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How about I take the route of believing the police story 100% like you guys have taken the route of believing the friends' account 100%. This kid assaulted an officer and tried to take his gun, his death was justified in the eyes of the law. /thread


I don't think I've taken that route. I don't think reedus has either.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7856 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:51 am to
without reading all of these pages, has it been determined if the cop was black or white yet?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:51 am to
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If y'all will drop the "obey the police and this never would've happened"
is that request a sensationalized one?You either do it or refuse to do it.
It's not up to us what kind of consequences you will face for whatever choice you make if you're in that situation.

This poster that i quoted is saying the dude died because of walking down the road.
This is a flat out lie.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:52 am to
Yall are arguing that walking in the street doesn't justify death as if the story of walking in the street being the cause of the original stop is 100% factual.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:52 am to
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without reading all of these pages, has it been determined if the cop was black or white yet?



will be at noon
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
841 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

snitches are bitches


kids around here say, "Snitches get stitches."
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

A few years back there was an incident involving Maplewood Police chasing an African American motorist that the cop claimed attempted to run him over. They pursued him all the way into North St. Louis with the assistance of STL's finest and caught him when he fell on the side of a building on Martin Luther King Dr. 3 officers subsequently proceeded to beat the crap out of this man. One of the three cops was an African American and they didn't stop until one of the cops looked up in the air and saw Fox2news broadcasting the beat-down live for everyone to see. I kid you not this is a true story.



i'm sure it was the same cops that killed this dude.
This the comparison you're trying to draw?
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7856 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

will be at noon
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Yall are arguing that walking in the street doesn't justify death as if the story of walking in the street being the cause of the original stop is 100% factual.


You're not playing close enough attention here. If you can't read the posts, don't respond.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477375 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

So if a cop comes and tells you to get off the computer right now, you're just going to say "Yes sir."

yes

quote:

Since when is it ok for cops to prevent people from doing things that are otherwise lawful?

it's not right. that is irrelevant when they have a gun and have shown they will kill people

DO NOT RESIST

DO NOT GIVE THEM A REASON

THEY WILL KILL THE frick OUT OF YOU (regardless of race)
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:54 am to
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Why even provoke police knowing some don't have good intentions?


don't bring common sense in here



Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:54 am to
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Streets aren't made for walking? Not sure where you are, but it must just be cultural thing in St. Louis then. People walk, jog, ride their bikes, play catch, do all sorts of things in the street. Hell, I even have a basketball hoop set up for my kid to shoot hoops in the street


The cop has every right to tell the guy to get out of the street. If the guy refused then the cop has every right to charge him ( there are laws about walking down the street obstructing the flow of traffic). From my understanding that's when it turned physical and according to the officer this guy tried to take his gun. People dont try and physically disarm officers so they can admire the craftsmanship of their weapon. It became life and death at this point.

At this point I have no idea what to think
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