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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:49 am to
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
301 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:49 am to
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If the leak is correct and the DA has 12 witnesses who corroborate the officers story, there is no way they get a true bill out of the grand jury.


Im thinking the same. I wont name call... but from what evidince has been presented so far it would take a person/persons with an "agenda" to justify charging Wilson.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:49 am
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9307 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:49 am to
quote:

I've been gassed twice. Heavily.


Ahhhh, that explains it...
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15792 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:50 am to
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it would take a person/persons with an "agenda" to justify charging Wilson
That's how Zimmerman ended up being charged.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:51 am to
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but from what evidince has been presented so far it would take a person/persons with an "agenda" to justify charging Wilson.


I'm still on the fence... The critical evidence is second hand as of now.

However, if there is no true bill, the protestors are going to be screaming to know who is on the grand jury and claim that it was all a setup by the authorities.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27479 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:51 am to
Totally disagree with you. The locals were going to run with the unarmed black teenager (who was about to go to college) being shot unjustly by white officer in broad daylight in middle of the street as he walked to grandma's house...whether the cops put out their version or not right away.

Just go to the first post in this thread and read the initial article on this story...
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:52 am to
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The locals were going to run with the unarmed black teenager (who was about to go to college) being shot unjustly by white officer in broad daylight in middle of the street as he walked to grandma's house...whether the cops put out their version or not right away.



All that. Trayvon 2.0.
Posted by LSUfanalways
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
591 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:53 am to
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they only voted for him because he is black


What an incredibly ridiculous statement. Statistics probably show that few voted at all. The turnout in the last election was around 12 percent I believe. I guess it's easier to just make assumptions about people, though, and even if they did vote for President Obama, unless you've spoken to them and conducted exit polls, you don't know why they voted for him. A much more plausible reason is that black people tend to vote for democrats.
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:53 am to
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Following CNN and Fox last night, quickly reminded me why I stopped watching the news a long time ago
They are the reason for this outrage. This shite pisses me off.
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
301 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:53 am to
What are the criteria for the grand jusy to move forward with trial proceedings? 12 jurrors? Unanimous decision? Majority decision?
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10129 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:54 am to
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They are the reason for this outrage. This shite pisses me off.



That and ignorance... The whole situation is terrible on all fronts..
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:55 am to
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The turnout in the last election was around 12 percent I believe.



Turnout for the last presidential election was 12%? bullshite.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:55 am to
Only if they're able to find probable cause for a crime committed by a "criminal suspect". Taken with a grain of salt, of course. It's always up for debate, and with the media glorifying it the way they have, they're probably going to try to find some BS to prosecute
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:56 am
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
301 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:56 am to
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Totally disagree with you.


You disagree that the people who are in favor of charging don't have an agenda? Do you think that these people have used logic and deductive reasoning skills to form their objective, unbiased opinion that Wilson should be charged?
Posted by LSUfanalways
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
591 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:56 am to
I didn't say turnout for the last presidential election. I said TURNOUT FOR THE LAST ELECTION.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12505 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:57 am to
CNN is still trying to stir shite up even this morning. Saying "Zimmerman got off with murder" and now "MB's mom joins a small group of women who've had their black unarmed sons murdered by police."

This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:58 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:58 am to
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but from what evidince has been presented so far it would take a person/persons with an "agenda" to justify charging Wilson.


I would disagree with based on the evidence presented so far. I don't know about obtaining a conviction but there's probably enough there now to charge. Now, if you are including 12 witnesses supporting the cop's version within your evidence presented so far even though we haven't heard their statements, then I'd agree with you.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20366 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:58 am to
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You disagree that the people who are in favor of charging don't have an agenda? Do you think that these people have used logic and deductive reasoning skills to form their objective, unbiased opinion that Wilson should be charged?


The "agenda" is to create racial division in hopes to leading to something else...
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:59 am to
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IF the cop's story is true, FPD could have defused the situation too with an initial simple release to the media that a "Ferguson police officer was involved in a fatal shooting with a robbery suspect." Didn't have to be accusatory and wouldn't have been seen as smearing if it were immediate. Would have kept the out of towners away and the anger levels would have subsided quicker.


I agree it was very poor and the guy seems to pretty much suck... BUT, I can kinda see why he was scared to say anything early on. You can tell from the videos and the accusations at the crime scene immediately following the shooting (which you and bass have stated) how strong the hate is for cops there. And this started blowing up overnight so I think he was of misstepping and then it just got ugly. And thats still no excuse for the end result.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26714 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:59 am to
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It's banned by the Geneva Convention


Mustard Gas is banned...that is like tear gas x 1M
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:59 am to
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However, if there is no true bill, the protestors are going to be screaming to know who is on the grand jury and claim that it was all a setup by the authorities.


As for the protesters is that, at least as far as the State charges go, the grand jury is likely to be made up of old, white people.
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