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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:26 am to
The first attorney claimed there are two shots to the top of the head but the pathologist said differently.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:27 am to
So how did he know the guy robbed the store?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:27 am to
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I don't think the family is going to like what Baden is saying... "St Louis county pathologist is very capable and I don't expect any issues with her autopsy"


They've seen dead bodies before....they've probably seen a dozen with GSWs since the beginning of the month. I'm sure they are more than capable....and certainly more so than a lawyer.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:27 am to
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The first attorney claimed there are two shots to the top of the head but the pathologist said differently.



Who are you going to believe? Some crackpot, biased scientist? Or an officer of the court?
Posted by Joe Blow
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:28 am to
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The first attorney claimed there are two shots to the top of the head but the pathologist said differently.

"Back to front" no less.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68552 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:28 am to
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All I'm pointing out is that he also could have been lunging at the officer as the friend of the officer said and the guy on the video tape said.

I admit I haven't see all 5,000 pages but how far apart were the officer and MB?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:30 am to
Oh God Al Sharpton
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:31 am to
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i hope tox shows pcp or meth.


Why do you hope anything? Rooting interest in the outcome. The tox and everything else will play itself out in time.

What I would like to see is crime scene photographs. What may answer some questions as to whether or not he was charging is whether or not there is a trail of blood. From what Baden is saying, MB would have been hit before the final, head down charge towards the officer. If that's the case, I would suspect there will be blood behind where MB came to rest. May show us how far, or if, MB charged the officer.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:32 am to
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"Back to front" no less.




Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:32 am to
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I admit I haven't see all 5,000 pages but how far apart were the officer and MB?


We don't know... Brown was ultimately 35ft away from the cop car at the end.

The officer likely ran after, so officer could have been within a few feet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:33 am to
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I admit I haven't see all 5,000 pages but how far apart were the officer and MB?


We don't know. MB was 35 feet from the car when he fell over and died.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68552 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Lsut81
quote:

We don't know... Brown was ultimately 35ft away from the cop car at the end.
The officer likely ran after, so officer could have been within a few feet.

Thanks
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:34 am to
Family is calling for the initial autopsy to be released, but you know as soon as that is released, if it contradicts or does any damage to their case, the protestors will scream that the DA did this to try to silence their results.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:34 am to
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We don't know... Brown was ultimately 35ft away from the cop car at the end.

The officer likely ran after, so officer could have been within a few feet.


And we'll probably never know.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:34 am to
Who is claiming shot in back of head? Baden said all shots from the front, right?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73740 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:36 am to
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I've not followed this thread. But has it been brought up that a lady claiming to be this cop's BF's wife called into a radio show and gave what she says was the cop's account of what happened?


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No. Do you have a link?



No, I just heard the interview she gave to some radio station in MO replayed by my local radio station.

Basically what she said was (and I'm going off memory here so I may mess up some detail) that the cop was confronting this teen about walking down the middle of the street when he got the call about the strong-arm robbery. The called fit the description of the teen, including the fact he had these cigars in his hand. At that point he got out of his cruiser and that's when the teen rushed him shoved him back into his car and went after his gun. At some point during this struggle the gun went off (I'm not sure if anyone was hit by this shot but I don't think they were). When the gun went off the teen bolted and started to run. At this point the cop got out and went to pursue (standard SOP from what she said) and told the teen to "halt". When he did this the teen turned and charged at him. That's when the cop began firing. According to her the teen kept coming even after being hit a number of times and only stopped when the final shot hit him in the forehead at a range of only a few feet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:36 am to
Crump said all kinds of shite this morning. Said the autopsy corroborates all the witnesses. Something about "back to front."
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:36 am to
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Why do you hope anything? Rooting interest in the outcome. The tox and everything else will play itself out in time.


Everybody should hope that this kid was hopped up on shite and may help prove the officer is justified in shooting. The alternative means the officers actions may not be legal and then you have an officer that could e determined to have committed murder.

So, what would you root for? A justified shooting or an officer commuting murder?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:37 am to
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Basically what she said was (and I'm going off memory here so I may mess up some detail) that the cop was confronting this teen about walking down the middle of the street when he got the call about the strong-arm robbery. The called fit the description of the teen, including the fact he had these cigars in his hand. At that point he got out of his cruiser and that's when the teen rushed him shoved him back into his car and went after his gun. At some point during this struggle the gun went off (I'm not sure if anyone was hit by this shot but I don't think they were). When the gun went off the teen bolted and started to run. At this point the cop got out and went to pursue (standard SOP from what she said) and told the teen to "halt". When he did this the teen turned and charged at him. That's when the cop began firing. According to her the teen kept coming even after being hit a number of times and only stopped when the final shot hit him in the forehead at a range of only a few feet.


Sounds like bullshite.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95707 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:38 am to
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So, what would you root for?


This is getting to be some sick, media-fueled $hit right here.

quote:

A justified shooting or an officer commuting murder?


I want the kid to be alive and in custody. But, that's too much to ask.

In the alternative, as this still pretends to be America - I want the truth to come out and justice to be served. Truth and justice shouldn't have a "side" (ETA: or a color), right?
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 10:40 am
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