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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
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listening to CNN, it seems that the officer may be black and they're setting up excuses




Al and Jesse just made a u-turn in their private jets.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Solidarity against police violence IS needed.

What isn't needed is a bunch of thugs and their overseers leading the charge.

Or a bunch of hoodlums looting rims and weaves and Jordans.


This.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:29 pm to
If the officer is black this is going to be classic
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:29 pm to
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listening to CNN, it seems that the officer may be black and they're setting up excuses



I didn't pick that up, but I don't have my full attention on it. What they said exactly? This would be an exciting turn of events.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Cut off the food stamps and turn off the electricity to the projects and their economy is crippled. They lose and the war is over.


Ferguson isn't the projects.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
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oh lawd....i bet nancy grace has that racist older black woman on all week



she's quality entertainment
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
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If the mother and father of the deceased had any decency they would be on the news calling for the stop to riots that disrespect the death of their son.


They have.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:31 pm to
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They have.



The only videos I've seen are of her yelling surrounded by a group of people.. maybe thats selective media though
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14992 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:33 pm to
I would be shocked if he is black. They have a predominantly White force, considering Ferguson is becoming almost all Black.

75%++ black or more in the City.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
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If the officer is black this is going to be classic


It will be classic in many regards, particularly jumping straight to bringing Sharpton and everyone else in. On the flip side, I think the Brown's and some others have missed the issue that it's about abuse of authority that needs to be addressed. White. Black. Brown. Whatever color.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134666 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:35 pm to
But that isn't what the thug element wanted in the first place.

They wanted an "excuse" to loot and lash out.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:37 pm to
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But that isn't what the thug element wanted in the first place.

They wanted an "excuse" to loot and lash out.


Am not and never have disagreed with that. Two different issues as I see it. The question of abuse of authority that may have led to the death of an unarmed kid. And the question of the looters, all of whom should be prosecuted as well.
Posted by weedGOKU666
Member since Jan 2013
3749 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:37 pm to
I've been reading through this thread this morning and I find the response issued here to be embarrassing. I'm not surprised that a largely southern message board has reacted this way, but I am still disgusted to see some of the things y'all are posting.

The idea that we live in a post-racial society is laughable, and people like the posters in this thread are the reason why. Y'all act like things like this don't become a race-issue until someone like Sharpton shows up, all the while completely oblivious to the virulently racist comments you yourselves are making.

Most of y'all couldn't care less about learning the truth of what happened to Brown, you're only following the story in the hopes that the police start gunning down more people (the looters).
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Most of y'all couldn't care less about learning the truth of what happened to Brown, you're only following the story in the hopes that the police start gunning down more people (the looters).
You are so wrong it is almost comical. The two things the OT hates the worst are over-zealous pigs and looters. That is why this thread is the perfect storm. I promise you this board wants to see the cops reprimanded if he was a trigger happy ex high school loser
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
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The idea that we live in a post-racial society is laughable, and people like the posters in this thread are the reason why.


We aren't arguing that there aren't racial issues, just the reasoning behind them and what their origins are.

quote:

Y'all act like things like this don't become a race-issue until someone like Sharpton shows up.


They don't

quote:

Most of y'all couldn't care less about learning the truth of what happened to Brown, you're only following the story in the hopes that the police start gunning down more people (the looters).


Nobody knows the truth, and it's not our place to speculate so we will discuss what is actually happening, which is a community that is more worried about causing anarchy than letting the legal process and path to the discovery of the truth play out.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97076 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
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you're only following the story in the hopes that the police start gunning down more people (the looters).


Correct. Why should business owners be subjected to a bunch of idiot thugs when the whole premise of this violent protest was b/c people of your thinking thought it was a cracker that shot him?

Slow your roll brah.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Y'all act like things like this don't become a race-issue until someone like Sharpton shows up, all the while completely oblivious to the virulently racist comments you yourselves are making.



Hell, most of the comments in this thread aren't even an attempt to be thinly-veiled racism.


You'll notice, if the kid that is shot in a news story is black, or poor, he's a thug POS.


Chandler Loupe's kid gets shot at a drug deal gone bad: He's a good kid who made a bad decision.



This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134666 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Am not and never have disagreed with that. Two different issues as I see it. The question of abuse of authority that may have led to the death of an unarmed kid. And the question of the looters, all of whom should be prosecuted as well.


We're in agreement on that.



I'm very much against the proliferation of the police state and the militarization of traditional police forces.

Unfortunately, when low people riot (read: burning and looting private unrelated businesses and homes) it gives the police further justification for the militarization and SWAT tactics of forces.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
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What they said exactly?

they bring up if people know the race "that's not important" and now it's "even if it's a black officer, he's tainted by the institutional racism of the police" argument. i'm not quoting, i'm summarizing, but that's lemon's argument

with progressives, it's never the individual...it's always institutions
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Most of y'all couldn't care less about learning the truth of what happened to Brown, you're only following the story in the hopes that the police start gunning down more people (the looters).


I care about what happend to Brown in regards to the growth of excessive force being used when it shouldn't be.


I also live in Memphis, where my car has been vandalized 6 times, and house broken into twice, so in regards to looters getting lit up.

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