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re: St Landry Parish School Board votes to start school virtual, look to data to reopen
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
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Why? Other people are going to work. Its part of living. If teachers dont want to do it, quit and find something else to make money. School is about teaching children, and this is not dangerous for children
I mean schools are way different than most places of business. If kids are spreaders of the virus, teachers are more vulnerable than your average worker who deals with the public.
From the limited data I've seen, elementary schools should be fine to function but I'm not so sure about high schools. Most of the fear mongering and complaining is coming from elementary school teachers though, as per usual.
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:11 am to hendersonshands
quote:Then quit, and do those other jobs for a living. Simple. Being a teacher means going to school and teaching children. If you dont want to do it, quit. But its ludicrous to expect not to do your job at all and still be guaranteed your paycheck
I mean schools are way different than most places of business. If kids are spreaders of the virus, teachers are more vulnerable than your average worker who deals with the public.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:13 am to lsupride87
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Then quit, and do those other jobs for a living. Simple. Being a teacher means going to school and teaching children. If you dont want to do it, quit. But its ludicrous to expect not to do your job at all and still be guaranteed your paycheck
Ok, it's obvious that you don't want to consider any viewpoint than your current one and you have an existing hate for teachers. This discussion isn't worth it.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:13 am to musick
St.Landry is not the richest parish. How are the kids who do not have laptops or the rural kids, of which there are a lot, going to participate? Are they living in a Fanntasyland?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:14 am to hendersonshands
quote:I have zero hate for them, but it makes ZERO sense they expect their money while not doing their jobs
Ok, it's obvious that you don't want to consider any viewpoint than your current one and you have an existing hate for teachers. This discussion isn't worth it.
Construction workers have to build things to make money
Restaurants have to serve people to make money
There are plenty of jobs where working from home isnt part of the job
Why are you acting like teachers should be treated differently? You are the ones seperating teachers and treating them differently. I am simply treating them the same as everyone else
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:14 am to yellowfin
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Most of st Landry’s population is rural and live in poverty, this will work great to increase the gap between the upper and lower classes
definitely a step in the right direction to move Louisiana from blue collar jobs like O&G and towards more white collar positions that require a good education.
People wonder why new business of any sort doesn't want to move here. Nothing like a well educated work force to draw from. School boards are doing all they can to keep those futures bright for La. kids.
Why are we so dependent on oil and gas? Probably cause those jobs provide a good living for people without the best education. And our educational system is doing all it can to make sure our kids don't suffer from a good education.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:16 am to whoa
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The issue is with kids being carriers and teachers/staff spreading it. What happens if there’s an outbreak amongst teachers? What do you do?
What happens if there’s an outbreak at the doctor’s office. What happens if there’s an outbreak at the grocery story. What happens if there’s an outbreak at the bank. What makes teachers so damn special?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:16 am to The Boat
quote:He cant answer that. He will simply say you hate teachers
What happens if there’s an outbreak at the doctor’s office. What happens if there’s an outbreak at the grocery story. What happens if there’s an outbreak at the bank. What makes teachers so damn special?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:20 am to lsupride87
There is already a teacher shortage. 25% of teachers are considered high risk in Louisiana. Your "so quit!" argument is just childish and doesn't really solve the issue here.
If every teacher who is high risk or has high risk family members just quits, you won't have enough teachers for schools to open.
I haven't seen one teacher who just doesn't want to work. If schools are virtual, teachers will still be working. If schools go virtual and it's still the same shitshow it was in March-May, then you should be calling for the heads of the school boards.
Most plans for virtual learning that I've heard would still have teachers going into their classrooms and conducting their virtual lessons from work.
I never said schools shouldn't open either, but I do think it's important to consider the health of teachers. Maybe that makes me a pussy.
If every teacher who is high risk or has high risk family members just quits, you won't have enough teachers for schools to open.
I haven't seen one teacher who just doesn't want to work. If schools are virtual, teachers will still be working. If schools go virtual and it's still the same shitshow it was in March-May, then you should be calling for the heads of the school boards.
Most plans for virtual learning that I've heard would still have teachers going into their classrooms and conducting their virtual lessons from work.
I never said schools shouldn't open either, but I do think it's important to consider the health of teachers. Maybe that makes me a pussy.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am to hendersonshands
quote:It makes you irrational
I never said schools shouldn't open either, but I do think it's important to consider the health of teachers. Maybe that makes me a pussy.
The health of the teachers is so little to be effected by this its mind numbing we are going on and on about it
quote:A fundamental part of school is being in the classroom with structure and socialization. Its as dumb as saying the contruction worker can build your house virtually etc etc. Being in the classroom and teaching children is part of the job. It just is
Your "so quit!" argument is just childish and doesn't really solve the issue here.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am to hendersonshands
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If schools are virtual
How does this work?
How does a dual working parent or working single parent household do this?
Explain it to me.
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25% of teachers are considered high risk in Louisiana.
Maybe we need to have a serious discussion about the dangers of morbid obesity in this country.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am to musick
Musick, you probably did this in a middle to upper middle class environment with 5th graders. You have not the slightest idea of the socio economic situations in Opelousas and Ville Platte, much less Eunice . This will fail.This nothing more than teachers and their union taking advantage. They will get a paycheck for doing next to nothing.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:22 am to lsupride87
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Construction workers have to build things to make money
Restaurants have to serve people to make money
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Why are you acting like teachers should be treated differently? You are the ones seperating teachers and treating them differently. I am simply treating them the same as everyone else
If you can't tell the difference between the risk of a quick conversation at a restaurant and being in a tight classroom (many with no windows or doors to outside) with around 150 different kids per day, then you're just a little stupid.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am to lsupride87
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The health of the teachers is so little to be effected by this its mind numbing we are going on and on about it
Affected*
Maybe you should've paid attention to your teachers.
And in my first post I asked for data that shows the risk of teachers getting sick is low. If that's the case, I'd say open it.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am to whoa
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The issue isn’t with kids getting sick or dying from it.
well we know that. there's no data, anywhere, to suggest that children host or are impacted by COVID-19 at remotely the same levels as adults. post it, if you got it.
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The issue is with kids being carriers and teachers/staff spreading it. What happens if there’s an outbreak amongst teachers? What do you do?
i didn't realize that was the goal now. Is it everyone just stay home and hide until the big bad COVID monster goes away? Is that the plan? I thought it was to flatten the curve to avoid overwhelming our hospitals.
And considering there is actual data to show children aren't nearly as dramatically effected by COVID-19 as adults....how would be increasing the impact on our hospitals anymore than say going from Phase 1, to Phase 2, to Phase 3?
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There’s a ton of unanswered legit questions. And no one has the answers to them.
Sort of. Except we do have data, from the CDC, saying it does not impact children as drastically as adults. We also have hundreds of pediatricians on record saying they would send their children back to schools. What other questions should we answer?
Here's some unanswered questions in the scenario of if we don't send our children back to school:
1) What are single parents going to do?
2) Will parents still be required to write that check to private/religious schools in case they are able to return at some point?
3) Is online leaning nearly as effective? (The answer is clearly NO)
4) What about disadvantaged students who don't have access to internet? (Raise taxes?...again)
seems like a lot more problems to solve than the alternative.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am to hendersonshands
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If you can't tell the difference between the risk of a quick conversation at a restaurant and being in a tight classroom (many with no windows or doors to outside) with around 150 different kids per day, then you're just a little stupid.
What’s the difference? Have you studied transmission rates relative to age and symptoms?
And if you’re so concerned about teacher’s, now do grocery store workers, summer camps, doctor’s offices, hair dressers, restaurants,
A quick conversation at a restaurant? Restaurants have limited staff. It’s often just one waiter or two serving every table the entire service.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:24 am to hendersonshands
quote:Overall mortality rate of this thing is 0.26%, from your CDC
And in my first post I asked for data that shows the risk of teachers getting sick is low
There is your data
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:27 am to hendersonshands
All the teachers I know would MUCH rather be teaching in the classroom than this virtual BS
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:27 am to hendersonshands
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hendersonshands
Do you have kids?
If so, how old are they?
Do you have full custody?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:28 am to Breesus
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Ok now do grocery store workers, summer camps, doctor’s offices, hair dressers, restaurants,
A quick conversation at a restaurant? Restaurants have limited staff. It’s often just one waiter or two serving every table the entire service.
Like I said, this isn't a conversation worth having because everybody here has their pre-conceived notions about lazy teachers. I'll just let you guys carry on.
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