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re: St Landry Parish School Board votes to start school virtual, look to data to reopen
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:50 am to hendersonshands
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:50 am to hendersonshands
I feel like not enough is being done to figure out phased approaches.
What grades of kids would benefit the most from in-school learning? Was grades of kids would the parents benefit the most from being able to send them to school each day?
Figure those out, then find the teachers that will be least vulnerable to coronavirus and have them teach those grades in person.
Vulnerable teachers can teach remotely to those that are more capable of learning remotely.
It may force some teachers into roles they aren't used to, but it's better than the alternative.
I just don't know why everything has to be an all or nothing approach.
What grades of kids would benefit the most from in-school learning? Was grades of kids would the parents benefit the most from being able to send them to school each day?
Figure those out, then find the teachers that will be least vulnerable to coronavirus and have them teach those grades in person.
Vulnerable teachers can teach remotely to those that are more capable of learning remotely.
It may force some teachers into roles they aren't used to, but it's better than the alternative.
I just don't know why everything has to be an all or nothing approach.
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:51 am to Breesus
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How many inner-city public school teachers in places like new Orleans, Baton Rouge, Ferguson, Chicago, and Detroit are demanding to go back to school full time or are fighting the school boards about their decisions?
do you want answer based on my interactions with inner city teachers as of late? or are you going to stick to your shitty opinion regardless?
the ones i know in Houston are young, but love their job and love teaching. Most are busy enjoying what is left for their summers, but logging in every day to check emails, send emails, and ask questions about all of what is going on. They just want definitive answers on what is going to happen here in a few weeks. So they can prepare, like their classrooms, teaching materials, lessons, etc.
and as per usual. because most principals and administrative assistants at these inner city schools are not only drastically overpaid, they also lack leadership and backbone. so, the teachers are getting wishy washy answers and being told to stay quiet, stay off social media, and wait.
Now. ALL of them will tell you. "Online learning is a joke". And the kids don't pay attention, don't follow along, and do not care. It is an exercise in futility to check some boxes for the district. It isn't remotely half as effective even for the good students. The teacher's know this and know they need to teach in person. Most don't really care COVID either. They'll take precautions, play along, and social distance, but aren't worried about it. At the end of the day, they know they have 0 say in the matter as they are the lowest on the totem pole as always.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:52 am to Kracka
quote:Nope. Not any of the private schools I have heard of
They will. The bishop will fall in line. Due to bussing issues, I fully expect private schools to follow what everyone else is doing.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:52 am to RealityTiger
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If it's all online, the number of kids is irrelevant. Isn't that what you're saying would work? Everything online. No teaching. Would work just as good as a classroom setting.
And I'm the one creating straw man arguments? When did I ever say that?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:53 am to hendersonshands
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"your" CDC like it's some kind of gotcha. Next, you can tell me to google any three numbers and cases and have my mind blown.
That mortality rate assumes that the teaching population mirrors the rest of society when in reality, 24% of teachers are high risk. (LINK ) Take that figure and assume that you can just sit out the high risk teachers, and then consider the teacher shortage in Louisiana (nearly 20% of teachers in Louisiana are uncertified).
Other methods have to be considered and there needs to ways of working back towards unrestricted classrooms again, but people here will act like anybody saying that is just lazy.
I have no idea how St. Landry is going to pull off virtual schooling with their high poverty rates, but they're not just doing it because their teachers are lazy.
i haven't said anything about any of that. so i have no idea wtf you're talking about. try replying to the right person...you know better.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:53 am to ProjectP2294
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I feel like not enough is being done to figure out phased approaches.
What grades of kids would benefit the most from in-school learning? Was grades of kids would the parents benefit the most from being able to send them to school each day?
Figure those out, then find the teachers that will be least vulnerable to coronavirus and have them teach those grades in person.
Vulnerable teachers can teach remotely to those that are more capable of learning remotely.
It may force some teachers into roles they aren't used to, but it's better than the alternative.
I just don't know why everything has to be an all or nothing approach.
It doesn't have to be an all or nothing approach. I agree with you 100%. That's why I said previously, they need to look at the data and figure out the real risks. If 2nd grade kids aren't going to infect each other and their teachers, then have them in the classroom.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:53 am to Tigers13
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How have daycares and summer camps managed to operate throughout this whole thing without serious issue. There have been positive cases at both but they’ve managed them. The difference with schools is teachers will get paid regardless if they open. Tell me another difference that would influence schools closing but not camps and daycare.
Daycare and summer camp serve the main purpose of watching your kids. They can't do that virtually.
Teachers main purpose is to educate your kids. This can be done virtually. Schools being a place for your kids to go during the day is a secondary benefit for parents, not the primary focus.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:53 am to Kracka
quote:No I think he got the memo that parents will pull their kids out of Catholic School if this happens.
The bishop will fall in line
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:54 am to Klark Kent
The first part of the post was responding to you. The rest was evidence to why I think it's not worth discussing things with those people. Don't be so sensitive.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:54 am to hendersonshands
quote:How about daycares? Summer camps?
When the argument devolves into comparing the risk of a construction worker to a teacher, it's an argument not worth having.
How should pediatric nurses feel that make roughly the same pay as teachers and they see 20-30 patients a day, who are actually known to be sick already?
I just dont get why teachers see to be the only profession we are bending over backwards to guarantee pay without perfoming one of the most fundamental parts of their jobs.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:57 am to lsupride87
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How about daycares?
Maybe you use daycares as statistical evidence that kids aren't infecting adults? How many 17 year olds are in day care?
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Summer camps?
Are summer camps outside or inside? How many kids are with counselors? How many counselors are 50 years old or have hypertension or diabetes?
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How should pediatric nurses feel that make roughly the same pay as teachers and they see 20-30 patients a day, who are actually known to be sick already?
Do pediatric nurses have ideal working conditions to see one kid at a time while wearing PPP with enough time in between patients to clean and disinfect before the next?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:00 am to hendersonshands
quote:My wife gets close physcial contact with 20-30 sick chidren a day. She wears the same mask you can buy at walmart of any other store
Do pediatric nurses have ideal working conditions to see one kid at a time while wearing PPP with enough time in between patients to clean and disinfect before the next?
Teachers will have far less close contact, with students who are screened before entering
frick nurses I guess right? No, my wife has a choice. If she wasnt comfortable, she could find something else. I honestly have no idea why teachers are so completely different than everyone else who has to perform their hob to make their paycheck
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:00 am to hendersonshands
I'm genuinely afraid for the entire lost generation of kids that will be created by the pandemic response.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:01 am to hendersonshands
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The first part of the post was responding to you. The rest was evidence to why I think it's not worth discussing things with those people. Don't be so sensitive.
okay, fair enough. let's start over.
i think i like what my local district here in Texas is doing. Parents are being asked, now, to register their children for either online learning on in person learning. once signed up. they would have to go through a process with the district registrars office to switch back. it's sounding like it's about 60/40 or 70/30 to go back to in person learning so far.
Which should allow principals to only put younger healthier, non at risk teachers, on the front lines.
The children at risk for falling between the cracks, like single parent children and low income students. Well, their parents almost have to send their kids. So, that should address that.
The children staying home are likely in good stable homes that can afford good internet, good technology, and will make sure their kids are in fact doing their work.
maybe this will save the taxpayers money, while giving parents an option. i dunno. it could go terribly because district leadership are overpaid morons with teaching degrees.
my concern would be that lil 'Dakota Tanner' gets the sniffles, then every soccer Mom who has a kid in the same building demands to pull their kid ASAP. That could ruin the whole thing a hurry.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:05 am to lsupride87
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frick nurses I guess right? No, my wife has a choice. If she wasnt comfortable, she could find something else. I honestly have no idea why teachers are so completely different than everyone else who has to perform their hob to make their paycheck
How is a tele-med call different from a virtual lesson? Can't both still be effective?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:06 am to tigergirl10
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Not sure where you got that, because I’m a teacher and I love teaching, working, and being in the classroom
I say this non-sarcastically...good for you. Wish there were more teachers like you. I know a few teachers who are dying to get back in the classroom and saftley get back to educating kids. But a vast majority I see are sharing memes about how they are being thrown to the wolves, it's not fair etc. Oddly these were the same ones going on and on about how they were so worried about thier "babies" when schools closed the first time
But seriously, Thank you for caring about what you do! 
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:06 am to lsupride87
quote:Not only that, but acting as though they're the only ones out there who have to deal with the risks of working around others indoors. As though the rest of us all work outdoors all day on a farm or some shite.
I just dont get why teachers see to be the only profession we are bending over backwards to guarantee pay without perfoming one of the most fundamental parts of their jobs.
It's just this simple. Get up, shut your mouth, get your arse to work, and teach. If you're too scared, fine. Don't go. Quit your job and stay home. Your spot will be filled in a few hours with somebody who isn't scared.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:07 am to thedentist45
quote:Sure. And my wife and all the other nurses are in the office seeing patients who want to come in and be seen
How is a tele-med call different from a virtual lesson? Can't both still be effective?
I am all far having children stay at home if they want, go right ahead with that plan. But the teachers need to be in the classrooms for the students that want to come in as well
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:07 am to lsupride87
Your entire argument is based on false equivalences. A recent report showed that at least 31% of kids under the age of 18 in Florida are positive for the virus. If a teacher sees 150 kids per day on a normal day, that would be nearly 50 kids per day who are positive in an environment that's not nearly as hygienic as a doctor's office.
Those numbers don't apply everywhere, but if you want to just arbitrarily throw out numbers, I can do the same.
I never said that schools should all be virtual, but I think a lot of you are just refusing to consider that there are multiple approaches to ensure safety.
Those numbers don't apply everywhere, but if you want to just arbitrarily throw out numbers, I can do the same.
I never said that schools should all be virtual, but I think a lot of you are just refusing to consider that there are multiple approaches to ensure safety.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:08 am to Breesus
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by all means avoid me because your point sucks.
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Without a comma it looks like you think this place is some sort of message board donkey creature
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