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re: St Landry Parish School Board votes to start school virtual, look to data to reopen

Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:28 am to
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All the teachers I know would MUCH rather be teaching in the classroom than this virtual BS


How many innercity public school teachers do you know?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:28 am to
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All the teachers I know would MUCH rather be teaching in the classroom than this virtual BS

Well, they werent the ones writing in the complaints to the Louisiana BESE meeting about the thought of even going back to school

They arent the ones running the unions in Cali and other places demanding not to go back
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:29 am to
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Like I said, this isn't a conversation worth having


Typical response from people like you.

Throw out some bullshite statement without the ability to back it up, refuse to discuss it at all, claim some sort of victim status of moral high ground.

You’re a clown.
Posted by thedentist45
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:30 am to
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What happens if there’s an outbreak at the doctor’s office.

Doctors have the luxury of seeing one patient at a time and can keep you in a waiting room while they sanitize and get properly equipped to help prevent spread to themselves or others.

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What happens if there’s an outbreak at the grocery story


Do the cashiers take groups of 20-30 shoppers around the store and give them face to face instruction while they pick their items? No.


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What happens if there’s an outbreak at the bank


Bank tellers stand behind a glass and also take one person at a time. Not something a teacher can do in the classroom.


I do think most teachers would rather be in a classroom because to actually teach virtually and get a kid to focus will be next to impossible.


Basically you're asking the wrong question.It's not so much about "what if there is an outbreak" as it is having the ability to eliminate as much risk as possible.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:30 am to
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Like I said, this isn't a conversation worth having because everybody here has their pre-conceived notions about lazy teachers. I'll just let you guys carry on.
Dude all you have is a straw man argument


A fundamental part of teaching is being in a classroom and teaching children. If you cant do that because you are fearful, that sucks, but there are a plethora of jobs in which some people cant/dont want to do because of personal reasons. Teaching should not be placed on a pedestal where they dont perform fundamental job duties and still get guaranteed income
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:32 am to
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Like I said, this isn't a conversation worth having because everybody here has their pre-conceived notions about lazy teachers. I'll just let you guys carry on.



nah, this is a lazy cop out.

my wife is a teacher and works her arse off. tdeucen here is a teacher and works his arse off. fouldeliverer is a teacher here and works his arse off.

what's your question?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:32 am to
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How many innercity public school teachers do you know?


several in Houston. what's your question?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:35 am to
Did you forget to log out of your alter account? I wasn't responding to you.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:37 am to
The kids that live around Pearl street and Beulah Gardens are going to be just fine.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:40 am to
yeah, okay. this is a message board jackass. i'll respond to who i please. by all means avoid me because your point sucks.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:42 am to
Hypothetically speaking.....If 4th grade has 6 teachers on staff and the school goes virtual only, why would 6 teachers be needed to handle the lesson plan and implementation of virtual classroom? Couldn't 3 teachers prep the online lesson plan and distribute to the students?

If an elementary school has a principal & a couple of asst principal's on staff, why couldn't they cut a few when there are no students on campus and fewer teachers? A janitorial staff of 10 isn't needed to maintain empty classrooms when they can operate with less than half that. A lunchroom staff won't be needed at all if there are no students to prep meals.

Reduce the faculty & staff including asst principals and administrative and support staff, and let's see how long it takes before folks will get back on track to open the doors for their students.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:43 am to
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what's your question?


How many inner-city public school teachers in places like new Orleans, Baton Rouge, Ferguson, Chicago, and Detroit are demanding to go back to school full time or are fighting the school boards about their decisions?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:45 am to
Thats what hendorsonhands cant/wont answer


If you have lets say3 english teachers in a grade, 3 math teachers, etc etc, that is completely unnecessary if virtual

Cut out 67% of the workforce if going virtual. Sounds good right teachers?


Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:45 am to
When the argument devolves into comparing the risk of a construction worker to a teacher, it's an argument not worth having.

Every teacher I know wants to be back at work full time, but they also know that several of their coworkers would be extremely vulnerable in the current state of classrooms in Louisiana.


For example this quote is nonsense:

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Overall mortality rate of this thing is 0.26%, from your CDC




"your" CDC like it's some kind of gotcha. Next, you can tell me to google any three numbers and cases and have my mind blown.

That mortality rate assumes that the teaching population mirrors the rest of society when in reality, 24% of teachers are high risk. (LINK Take that figure and assume that you can just sit out the high risk teachers, and then consider the teacher shortage in Louisiana (nearly 20% of teachers in Louisiana are uncertified).

Other methods have to be considered and there needs to ways of working back towards unrestricted classrooms again, but people here will act like anybody saying that is just lazy.

I have no idea how St. Landry is going to pull off virtual schooling with their high poverty rates, but they're not just doing it because their teachers are lazy.

Posted by RealityTiger
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:47 am to
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Hypothetically speaking.....If 4th grade has 6 teachers on staff and the school goes virtual only, why would 6 teachers be needed to handle the lesson plan and implementation of virtual classroom? Couldn't 3 teachers prep the online lesson plan and distribute to the students?
I agree wholeheartedly. You only need 1 teacher to prep the online lesson plan.

I think you're on to something here. Let's go ahead and lay off all the other teachers because they're not needed right now. That way they can stay safe in their homes and don't have to worry about catching the virus. And then the school board can save money for the year and make necessary improvements to buildings.

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let's see how long it takes before folks will get back on track to open the doors for their students.


Oh, they'll be fighting each other for parking spots to get back.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:47 am to
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If you have lets say3 english teachers in a grade, 3 math teachers, etc etc, that is completely unnecessary if virtual

Cut out 67% of the workforce if going virtual. Sounds good right teachers?




So are they going to pay that 1 teacher per grade more money to do all of the planning and grading for 3x the amount of kids? You're coming from a place of ignorance but your confidence is impressive.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:47 am to
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this is a message board jackass.


Without a comma it looks like you think this place is some sort of message board donkey creature
Posted by Tigers13
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:47 am to
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Bank tellers stand behind a glass and also take one person at a time. Not something a teacher can do in the classroom.


I do think most teachers would rather be in a classroom because to actually teach virtually and get a kid to focus will be next to impossible.


Basically you're asking the wrong question.It's not so much about "what if there is an outbreak" as it is having the ability to eliminate as much risk as possible


How have daycares and summer camps managed to operate throughout this whole thing without serious issue. There have been positive cases at both but they’ve managed them. The difference with schools is teachers will get paid regardless if they open. Tell me another difference that would influence schools closing but not camps and daycare.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:49 am to
If it's all online, the number of kids is irrelevant. Isn't that what you're saying would work? Everything online. No teaching. Would work just as good as a classroom setting.

Right?
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:49 am to
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Actually hope the private schools don’t follow this.


They will. The bishop will fall in line. Due to bussing issues, I fully expect private schools to follow what everyone else is doing.
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