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re: St. George opponents are now on the move
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:10 am to leftovergumbo
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:10 am to leftovergumbo
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So why sign the petition if the only two issues are new/better schools and getting separation from all the black people, and you can't guarantee a school?
Ima walk you through this. I’ll hold your hand. Don’t worry.
Okay. So. Population trends over the last 15-25 years, east Baton Rouge parish has seen a massive migration of the middle class and upper middle class out of the parish to neighboring ascension and Livingston. This is a cold. Hard fact.
When these people leave the parish for ascension and Livingston, they take their tax dollars with them.
So. How do we stop this mad exodus? Well. We look to see why they are leaving. Why are they leaving you ask? SCHOOLS AND CRIME.
So. We know why they are leaving. Now how do we stop it?
Well. Central popped up. And so did Zachary. And all of a sudden they start performing REALY fricking well right? So. What happens to the population trends? The exodus to Livingston and ascension SLOWED DOWN as those moving out of Baton Rouge proper stayed IN PARISH and moved to Zachary and central.
So. We see that these newly incorporated cities do two things well. One, they see their school system shoot up to the top in the state. And two, they KEEP frickING TAX DOLLARS IN THE frickING PARISH INSTEAD OF LEAVING TO ASCENSION AND LIVINGSTON
So. I ask you. What’s better for east Baton Rouge PARISH in 15-20 years? The status quo of failing schools and high crime and a mass exodus to the surrounding parishes?
Or putting on your big boy pants and incorporating a new city in the parish to help stop the exodus?
It really really is a no fricking brainer if you get the emotions out of it and look at the cold. Hard. FACTS
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:12 am to upgrayedd
An ISD would be a break away.
A city is not.
And who would blame folks for wanting out of the EBRSS? Not me.
And people keep saying an ISD might bring on higher school taxes. I'm not ignoring that question, it's a possibility but at least it will be me and my neighbors voting and not folks across the parish who don't put skin in the game.
Oh and btw, despite a declining enrollment the EBRSS has to use some of their cash reserves to balance their budget AGAIN. We all know what that means, when reserves get too low and start to run out; guess who will need to raise taxes? Throw in the pressure for teacher and employee raised and more taxes for the EBRSS will be inevitable, watch.
And in this election if there is no ISD, I will be voting with other folks all over the parish who have no skin in the game.
I'm sorry, give me an ISD.
A city is not.
And who would blame folks for wanting out of the EBRSS? Not me.
And people keep saying an ISD might bring on higher school taxes. I'm not ignoring that question, it's a possibility but at least it will be me and my neighbors voting and not folks across the parish who don't put skin in the game.
Oh and btw, despite a declining enrollment the EBRSS has to use some of their cash reserves to balance their budget AGAIN. We all know what that means, when reserves get too low and start to run out; guess who will need to raise taxes? Throw in the pressure for teacher and employee raised and more taxes for the EBRSS will be inevitable, watch.
And in this election if there is no ISD, I will be voting with other folks all over the parish who have no skin in the game.
I'm sorry, give me an ISD.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:15 am to Lsuhack1
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the opponents know this and are very worried.
No shite. Why do you think they pull every shady tactic under the sun to get the petition invalidated? They know they're going to get their shite pushed in if it ever gets up in front of voters.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:15 am to beerJeep
The fact that a large number of people want to form a separate "city" speaks volumes about the corruption and waste in baton rouge, doesn't it?crying racism is a chickenshit cop out.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:17 am to doubleb
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An ISD would be a break away.
A city is not.
you can't form isd's in Louisiana without a city first.
Quick question would only the people in the area of St. George vote on it, or would it be parish wide?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:19 am to Lsuhack1
Only those in the proposed limits.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:25 am to beerJeep
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Well. Central popped up. And so did Zachary. And all of a sudden they start performing REALY fricking well right? So. What happens to the population trends? The exodus to Livingston and ascension SLOWED DOWN as those moving out of Baton Rouge proper stayed IN PARISH and moved to Zachary and central.
So. We see that these newly incorporated cities do two things well.
This is why you don't get taken seriously.
Zachary has been it's own town for over 100 years. Since the 1800s
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:28 am to magildachunks
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Zachary has been it's own town for over 100 years. Since the 1800s
Was referring to their ISD which was established in 2002, do try and keep up.
Zachary was jack shite until their ISD was formed and the exodus into Zachary began. But hey. You’re one disingenuous mother fricker ain’t ya?
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:29 am to magildachunks
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Zachary has been it's own town for over 100 years. Since the 1800s
We're talking school district, baw, not incorporation
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:30 am to beerJeep
Property values in Zachary and central have increased dramatically. And that is for everyone within the city limits regardless of race, gender, political, or sexual orientation.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:31 am to Lsuhack1
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you can't form isd's in Louisiana without a city first.
Quick question would only the people in the area of St. George vote on it, or would it be parish wide?
Only the people in the proposed borders laid out in the petition to form a new city would be allowed to vote on whether or not to incorporate as a new municipality.
An ISD is more difficult. The fricked up constitution this state uses must be amended to fund a new school district, so 2/3 of the legislature has to okay putting a measure on the next ballot to allow voters to approve the constitutional amendment. Then, if the legislature approves the ballot measure, it goes in front of the entire state at the next regular election and the constitutional amendment has to pass both statewide and in the parish the new district would be located in.
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I think the DOJ has to bless the new district at the federal level if it all passes, too. I seem to remember something about that when Central formed its school district.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:55 am to TigerstuckinMS
Why not amend the constitution to change the way ISD’s are handled instead of having to amend it each and every time a new ISD is proposed?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:56 am to BlackAdam
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That is what was explained to me as I was walking into Wal-Mart the first time around. In fact no mention of St. George was ever made. I was asked to sign a petition for better schools. No attempt was made to verify I lived in the proper St. George area. I don't. But I am for better schools, so I signed.
You're so full of shite.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:02 am to Mahootney
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Property values in Zachary and central have increased dramatically. And that is for everyone within the city limits regardless of race, gender, political, or sexual orientation.
That is an increase in taxes itself! My property tax will be higher each year! (#TogetherBR) /sarcasm
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:02 am to Mahootney
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Why not amend the constitution to change the way ISD’s are handled instead of having to amend it each and every time a new ISD is proposed?
This state's constitutional frickery is so bad it wouldn't surprise me that changing that one tiny bit means that all of time and space would be legally unmade.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:03 am to TigerstuckinMS
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This state's constitutional frickery is so bad it wouldn't surprise me that changing that one tiny bit means that all of time and space would be legally unmade.
Yeah our constitution isn't exactly a clean document.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:08 am to Mahootney
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Property values in Zachary and central have increased dramatically.
This woman says they've increased 400%
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:08 am to Lsuhack1
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you can't form isd's in Louisiana without a city first.
I think that's technically not true, but in reality that has been the case and it was one of the roadblocks used by the opposition to stop the initial movement.
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Quick question would only the people in the area of St. George vote on it, or would it be parish wide?
Parish wide
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:10 am to SeeeeK
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LOL, as if this even needed to be a department. Jesus Christ these politicians know how to waste our tax dollars.
Every municipality has a registrar of voters. I can't imagine why you think it's unnecessary for a department that is tasked with holding elections, maintaining the registry of voters, etc.
I can't tell if you're trolling, or just don't have any clue what they do.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:12 am to MLCLyons
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I can't tell if you're trolling, or just don't have any clue what they do.
I doubt he feels like you should provide an ID before you vote also
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