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re: Spoke to a plumber today who gave good advice on faucets for the freeze

Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:39 am to
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
1969 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:39 am to
So what do you propose for those on septic?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29043 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:42 am to
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I will gladly look at any data you have that shows the existence of a significant temperature difference between inside and outside of a cabinet that is in climate controlled air.

I just checked mine. It's 66 degrees in the kitchen and 62 degrees in the cabinet under the sink. There was a noticeable cold draft when I opened the cabinet. House is about 55 years old.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29818 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:43 am to
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Any reason water pressure wouldn't stop if everyone was doing this?
my area drained out well in Feb 2021 by dripping faucets. Took about 24 hours...took 48 for them to refill enough to use
Posted by LSURoss
Dragon Believer
Member since Dec 2007
16403 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:02 am to
Same.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9462 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:03 am to
There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.

Slab house, 15 years old and my master toilet is frozen. Our houses are built for cold, but not sub zero winds. Thankfully that’s all that’s frozen so far. I hope the pex pipe holds up
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13108 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 4:17 am to
Remove the hose before the first freeze. Shut the valve in the basement. Open the spigot all the way. No brainer.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 5:01 am to
I would have never guessed that a thread about freezing pipes would be so entertaining.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12767 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 5:15 am to
Agreed
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23261 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 5:57 am to
quote:

Slab house, 15 years old and my master toilet is frozen. Our houses are built for cold,


By frozen toilet you mean the line to the toilet is not working?
Posted by Doormat
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
1572 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:12 am to
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Never chew your nails


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:44 am to
One of my outsized spigots was froze this morning despite being covered. I just hit it with a propane torch and got it flowing before the line froze more into the house. Slab on grade and the spigot line is in an insulated wall proving yet again LNCHBOX consistently has bad takes
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:48 am to
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you have to leave the HOT water running all night

More propaganda from Big Water
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13284 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:50 am to
in the basement.
—what’s a basement?
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:07 am to
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Hot water freezes faster than cold water


Yes it does. The molecules are farther apart
That is physically impossible. Hot water will turn to cold water first. So hot water will never freeze, EVER. Only cold water can freeze.
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:14 am to
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Tell me about the difference in ambient temp between the air in the kitchen and the cabinet that is located in the kitchen.

Then tell me with a straight face that difference is enough to have any effect on pipes freezing


How about someone just tells you that copper is an excellent conductor of heat. And someone else should tell you that a cold copper pipe (metal) can transfer the cold faster than the ambient temp in a room can equalize that temp to the copper pipe. And then someone else should tell you that some people are way way smarter than you and are giving out this advice to try and help dumb dumbs like yourself save money by not having to burst your pipes. I'm sure someone else could also tell you that the plumber isn't really working for the city and is pulling off this ruse to get your water bill to go up an extra $3.50 from letting it drip.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30458 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:23 am to
I've been a master bater for 38 years and u don't hear me giving my opinions on it
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38953 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:29 am to
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He said you do not need to drain any pipes, that's overkill and unnecessary

As someone that lives in a pier and beam home, this is not unnecessary. In the last freeze I spent all day under my house fixing pipes and was without water for 4 days. This time I chose to turn the water off and drain the pipes and blow them out. Took an hour, but hopefully it will benefit me because I don’t have to do any work after.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178933 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:30 am to
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but hopefully it will benefit me because I don’t have to do any work after.




Did you fill up water buckets to flush toilets?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29905 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:33 am to
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And someone else should tell you that a cold copper pipe (metal) can transfer the cold faster than the ambient temp in a room can equalize that temp to the copper pipe.


Your previous post was pedantic so I felt the urge to point out that "cold" can not be transferred because it does not exist. The pipe is transferring heat (energy) from the area with more heat to the area with less heat.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:36 am to
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And someone else should tell you that a cold copper pipe (metal) can transfer the cold faster than the ambient temp in a room can equalize that temp to the copper pipe.

I'm going to again ask for an explanation of how opening the cabinet has any effect in any of this, but I get the feeling you're just the next condescending douche that will just ignore the question.

I think y'all are assuming I'm saying don't protect your outside pipes, which has never been my claim.
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