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re: Spinoff: What are reasons not to build a house?

Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:41 am to
the best contractors are loyal to their customers
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:53 am to
quote:

the best contractors are loyal to their customers


i concur.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:09 pm to
How does the cost compare to buying a newer home vs building on a similar lot.
Ex 5 year old house is $100 per sqft what would be the build cost?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:14 pm to
You will generally get more house per dollar (i.e. either better class, more heated square feet or both) if you find a house that you're willing to buy, than custom building it yourself.

Plus - once you decide to build a house you are 9 months to 2 years from move in - catch a motivated seller, you can move in as quickly as the day after closing, and typically 4 to 6 weeks is not an uncommon time period - so, a typical experience would be shopping for a house in February/March. Finding the right house, making an offer, negotiating, accepting in April - maybe close at the end of April - you're moved in by the end of June, probably earlier - so 16 weeks from start to finish wouldn't be an outlier.

Deciding to find land, design and build a house can easily last 2 or 3 years (can be much longer), depending on other factors and almost can't be done in less than 1 full year.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

You never get everything you want because you can never afford everything both you and your wife want


This. And...you never really agree with said wife on most things. Men and women's tastes are very different. Building a home with your spouse can either be a very neat process, or it can cause you to absolutely hate each other's face.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:29 pm to
This is what I want to know.
Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:55 pm to
Basically after reading this thread I'm fricked unless I can buy a million dollar plus custom home due to all home builders being complete crap.
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:04 pm to
After doing years of construction inspection in multiple areas of construction, including residential, I have very little faith in most builders. Incredibly shady stuff goes down in residential construction. It can be shockingly bad. And with my current company, it drives me crazy the things I've seen that I can't do anything about.

If your are spending 200-300k on a house, it's worth another grand to have proper oversight on structural, and particularly, water intrusion issues.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

If your are spending 200-300k on a house, it's worth another grand to have proper oversight on structural, and particularly, water intrusion issues.


If it only costs "another grand" I would think damn near everyone would do this. I obviously have no clue as I haven't bought my first home yet but this thread is making me think it's going to be a nightmare. No way all these builders are that bad.
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:28 pm to
Some builders hire us directly to perform inspections. Mostly because their construction managers only know how to manage the paperwork, but have little to no construction knowledge. That's pretty common amongst the larger builders.

I've just seen a lot of bad construction practices. It gets particularly bad when there's a construction bubble, like we have now in Colorado.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3447 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:28 pm to
I'm in the process of building a custom home. Almost six months into it and still haven't broken ground. Soon though...,.i hope!
Posted by LSUpetro
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
532 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:56 pm to
contractors are as crooked as lawyers & only worried about $ and not your best interest
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

I'm in the process of building a custom home. Almost six months into it and still haven't broken ground. Soon though...,.i hope!


A thing I'd recommend doing, is watching them pour the slab. Residential concrete can be absurd with what they'll do. Especially in Louisiana, I'd want to be sure I wasn't getting old concrete.

I'll never forget a job in Florida. It was a neighborhood we were doing regular inspections in. I was walking with the city inspector, checking out several houses for framing. While we are were next to a slab being poured, the driver backs into the garage, over a reinforced thickened edge, bending the rebar into the ground. There's was also a few trucks stacked up.

Of course, we walked over to see what the hell they were doing. I look at the trucks ticket, and it was 2.5 hours old from batch (in the south, it's always a 90 minute spec or less). Because it was so old, they had also added 80 gallons of water (most crews only added 5-10 gallons, and I've never seen more than 30 gallons held back, to allow for a field slump adjustment). They had significantly exceeded the water cement ratio, which can prevents the concrete from reaching its specified psi, and causes shrinkage cracking. It was a disaster.

Obviously, there's plenty of quality homes that are built. I've just seen enough shady work that I'm naturally skeptical.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:56 pm to
It's super fricking expensive and there are too many options to choose.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:21 am to
You have to pick out every fricking knob, faucet, paint color, style of trim; tile and pattern, cabinet wood, style and color; crown molding style, toilet, light fixture, sink, door, shingles, etc.

All that shite takes a ton of time. Some women and gays love it, but most men will eventually come near suicide in the process.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19317 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:16 am to
When hiring you people always pick the cheapest bid in turn get what you pay for
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10213 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 6:12 am to
The wife and I built a house and we are still having issues with the builder. DO NOT USE REVE. Complete trash. I would ask several other home people who have used a certain builder and what issues If any did they in countered.
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 6:13 am to
Not being in an established neighborhood
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10964 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 6:21 am to
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What are the downsides?

1. Time
2. Headaches

The advantage: you designed it to fit your needs perfectly. There's nothing better than a custom home.
Oh, and it's brand fricking new.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9900 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 6:22 am to
Guess it depends on what's out there. We found a lot on Bayou Lafourche with restrictions so we are protected from trailer parks and apartments. My brother in law is building our house and is only charging us cost plus 10%. So we will be able to have instant equity, especially because housing is still high in the Thibodaux area. I would think having trust in the builder is definitely important.
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