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re: Spinoff thread: Jackson Pollock's artwork.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:14 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:14 pm to bhtigerfan
Read The Painted Word by Tom Wolfe if you want to treat yourself to a cathartic savaging of the modern fine art scene.
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:20 pm to ManBearTiger
I've read that book and while there are a lot of jerkoffs in the "modern fine art scene", that doesn't make the poster you're responding to any less of one himself.
Also not sure why you would need such catharsis unless you lived and it worked in Manhattan or Hollywood.
Also not sure why you would need such catharsis unless you lived and it worked in Manhattan or Hollywood.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Also not sure why you would need such catharsis unless you lived and it worked in Manhattan or Hollywood.
You have to have lived or worked in Manhattan or Hollywood to engage with the art world?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:27 pm to Tiger Hoods
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its actually a sound investment for those that can afford it....
the "greater fool" theory makes a lot of stupid shite "sound investments" for a time.
I guess I am supposed to fake like I "get it" to prove how "smart" I am. I am smart anyway, don't need to embarrass myself.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:43 pm to Tiger Hoods
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its actually a sound investment
Until the rest of the world figures out that it's random paint splatters that a retarded dodo bird could do with it's eyes closed and the value corrects itself to -$0.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:01 pm to RDOtiger
quote:Exactly.
I think people believe they have elite intelligence, therefore, they can see genius where less fortunates cannot - it's simply narcissism manifested via art.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:05 pm to bhtigerfan
You're projecting again.
I think the truth is that you fear what you don't understand or have a personal experience with, therefore you choose to devalue it and the people who do have a connection to that thing and have a community and culture around it. Your statements say more about you than it does the art.
And before you label me, I've been around a lot of "artsy" and "over educated" types who do the exact same thing to people (like me) who choose to spend their time, energy, and money following a bunch of 18-21 year olds playing some "dumb game". They are no better than you.
Fortunately there are people of all walks of life who aren't so small minded.
I think the truth is that you fear what you don't understand or have a personal experience with, therefore you choose to devalue it and the people who do have a connection to that thing and have a community and culture around it. Your statements say more about you than it does the art.
And before you label me, I've been around a lot of "artsy" and "over educated" types who do the exact same thing to people (like me) who choose to spend their time, energy, and money following a bunch of 18-21 year olds playing some "dumb game". They are no better than you.
Fortunately there are people of all walks of life who aren't so small minded.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:09 pm to bhtigerfan
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Spinoff thread: Mickey Teutul's artwork.
FIFY
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Also not sure why you would need such catharsis unless you lived and it worked in Manhattan or Hollywood
What? I like art, artists, and the mythologies around the art world and I live in Baton Rouge, why would I need to live anywhere else to have an appreciation of art analysis and criticism?
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:10 pm to bhtigerfan
Paint splatters
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:23 pm to bhtigerfan
Pollock's work is at least more interesting than Mark Rothko's. This bit of two color genius by Rothko sold for $46.5 million:
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:27 pm to CHEDBALLZ
I like it. 
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:28 pm to meeple
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Ex Machina
awesome movie Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:45 pm to Rex
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Mark Rothko's. This bit of two color genius by Rothko sold for $46.5 million:
That's absurd for that crap. The art world is so full of shite.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:49 pm to bhtigerfan
I'm qualified to speak on these matters because I'm smarter than 99% of you and earn more than 98% of you. And I say it's pretentious crap appreciated only by fools who want to appear intelligent. You're welcome.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:56 pm to Rex
Ho Lee shite Rex, you may have found a famous painter less talented than Pollock!
This masterpiece
White Center (Yellow, Pink and Lavender on Rose) sold in '07 for $72.84 mil.
Which proves that the art world is fricking insane.
This masterpiece
White Center (Yellow, Pink and Lavender on Rose) sold in '07 for $72.84 mil. Which proves that the art world is fricking insane.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:06 pm to 911Moto
quote:Some quotes from Rothko to illustrate your point.
And I say it's pretentious crap appreciated only by fools who want to appear intelligent.
quote:
Rothko himself described these paintings as possessing a more organic structure and as self-contained units of human expression. For him, these blurred blocks of various colors, devoid of landscape or the human figure, let alone myth and symbol, possessed their own life force. They contained a "breath of life" he found lacking in most figurative painting of the era. They filled with possibility, whereas his experimentation with mythological symbolism had become a tired formula. The "multiforms" brought Rothko to a realization of his mature, signature style, the only style Rothko would never fully abandon.
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I realize that historically the function of painting large pictures is painting something very grandiose and pompous. The reason I paint them, however . . . is precisely because I want to be very intimate and human. To paint a small picture is to place yourself outside your experience, to look upon an experience as a stereopticon view or with a reducing glass. However you paint the larger picture, you are in it. It isn’t something you command!
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:22 pm to ManBearTiger
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Read The Painted Word by Tom Wolfe if you want to treat yourself to a cathartic savaging of the modern fine art scene
quote:Boom.
Wolfe provides his own history of what he sees as the devolution to modern art. He summarized that history: "In the beginning we got rid of nineteenth-century storybook realism. Then we got rid of representational objects. Then we got rid of the third dimension altogether and got really flat (Abstract Expressionism). Then we got rid of airiness, brushstrokes, most of the paint, and the last viruses of drawing and complicated designs". After providing examples of other techniques and the schools that abandoned them, Wolfe concluded with Conceptual Art: "…there, at last, it was! No more realism, no more representation objects, no more lines, colors, forms, and contours, no more pigments, no more brushstrokes. …Art made its final flight, climbed higher and higher in an ever-decreasing tighter-turning spiral until… it disappeared up its own fundamental aperture… and came out the other side as Art Theory!… Art Theory pure and simple, words on a page, literature undefiled by vision… late twentieth-century Modern Art was about to fulfill its destiny, which was: to become nothing less than Literature pure and simple"
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:44 pm to bhtigerfan
These purchases are never driven by anything other than ego, and the fact that the paintings suck makes them that much more valuable for this purpose. It basically gives some rich frick the outlet to say, Look at me - I can wipe my arse with 500 million dollars."
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