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re: spinoff: my son doesn't want to go to college.

Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by mworld938
Jax Beach
Member since Sep 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm to
I hated school. I went to vo-tech for auto body and after working at a body shop for 3 yrs I joined the Coast Guard. After 10yrs I realized I was smarter than the officers I worked for - so I got my degree and became an officer. Some people got to learn the hard way.

Thankfully both of my kids are students at LSU. We didn't have TOPS in Virginia (where I am from) and college cost a LOT more than Louisiana.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm to
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Skilled workers (who can pass a drug test and background check)
A lot of the skilled worker unions don't do drug testing
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23916 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:37 pm to
Put him in touch with a military recruiter
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70450 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:37 pm to
Yes, but the money and demand in Louisiana is in industrial construction and they all require drug tests.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:40 pm to
Unless he's going for something specialized(engineer, lawyer, doctor, accountant) college is basically paying tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper with his name on it after however many years it takes to get it.

There's nothing wrong with going straight to work. Chances are the knowledge and skills he will need in whatever career path he chooses will all be learned from work experience, not the classroom. If he can prove he's good at whatever he wants to do and is good at networking, those are the things that are going to lead to a successful career. Not whatever bullshite he is "learning" in a college classroom
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:42 pm to
Well that's no fun.

I have family in various "skilled labor" fields across the country, let's just say most people would be shocked at how common drug use is.

Crane operators: potheads, laborers: potheads, carpenters working on the table saw: stoned out of their minds.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:43 pm to
When you bust arse all day in a labor job you deserve to smoke smoke little pot. Anyone who has worked in Ina warehouse will tell you that
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70450 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:44 pm to
Yes they are, in most places in the country and in most industries, that's the case. In Petrochemicals, refining, and oil&gas, you have to pass a drug test. Soon, they'll be switching to a new test that will absolutely screw over even the occasional user.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56699 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:44 pm to
Trying to farm not stoned is boring as shite.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8427 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:45 pm to
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Literally everyone from LP gets a trade in one of those fields. A shortage in LA will not happen. Ever.


There is a shortage right now. Increased labor costs were a large factor in the Motiva expansion not happening.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:45 pm to
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When you bust arse all day in a labor job you deserve to smoke smoke little pot.
I have and I agree.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70450 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

When you bust arse all day in a labor job you deserve to smoke smoke little pot. Anyone who has worked in Ina warehouse will tell you that


As someone who's worked in a warehouse, I whole-heartedly agree. However, OSHA and Homeland Security do not (most plants are considered terrorist targets so homeland is heavily involved in their safety and security policies).
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2727 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:46 pm to
I make $85k plus with no degree. I am in sales and sit at a desk all day.
Posted by HardHat
Member since Feb 2014
732 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:47 pm to
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There is a shortage right now. Increased labor costs were a large factor in the Motiva expansion not happening


Across the whole construction industry, especially industrial. We're fighting raising rates just to stay competitive, and to keep skilled craftsman.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83028 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:48 pm to
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If you don't make him go go to college you are a horrible horrible parent



I had WAYYYYYY too many classmates drop out of college. They thought it was what they were supposed to do, and ended up costing their parents thousands over it.

I don't think you should force someone who truly doesn't want to go, because chances are, you'll be the one hurting from it.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:52 pm to
Of course he can. It's asinine that people even question this. It just shows how much bullshite is out there when this debate comes up.

HVAC, welder, machinist, electrician, plumber, mechanic, maintenance techs, inspection, etc. You also have jobs in the railroad, oilfield & truck driving industries that pay very well too.

This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted by HardHat
Member since Feb 2014
732 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:54 pm to
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As someone who's worked in a warehouse, I whole-heartedly agree


Warehouse? that's low on my list of what I consider a labor job.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:54 pm to
You're son is a beta

I'm sorry for your loss
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70450 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:54 pm to
I was a lowly intern, so that's where I started
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72410 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:55 pm to
OP abandoned this thread with a quickness.
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