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re: specific examples of diversity contributing to corporate earnings
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Salmon
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Salmon
True. But they don't mean diversity of thought. They mean gender and race. Period. None of those things has a legitimate tie in to higher performance.
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Was the engineer hired because he/she was Indian or because he/she was the best candidate for the job?
No idea. Didn't hire him.
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Link to where anyone is saying they want everyone to think alike.
Its kind of the logic behind diversity...
Diversity of thoughts, logic, input, etc
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Salmon
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when someone asks me about diversity I don't immediately think of skin color diversity to me is about all background
You and I absolutely agree. Unfortunately a lot of people don’t.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Salmon
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when someone asks me about diversity I don't immediately think of skin color
The HR department certainly does. That and sexuality is just about all that matters when it comes to "diversity" for them.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:19 pm to Trevaylin
Clearly many here haven’t seen the movie Trading Places.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:20 pm to Salmon
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No idea. Didn't hire him.
So then what you actually meant to say is no, you don’t have any examples.
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Its kind of the logic behind diversity... Diversity of thoughts, logic, input, etc
Link to where anyone is saying those bare bad things.
The OP specifically says diversity for the sake of diversity.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:21 pm to Salmon
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when someone asks me about diversity I don't immediately think of skin color
diversity to me is about all background
That's what it is to you. That's what it is to me. It's probably what it is to most people here.
However that's not what it is to HR departments and diversity offices.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:23 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So then what you actually meant to say is no, you don’t have any examples.
this is what the OP asked
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specific examples of diversity contributing to corporate earnings
I'd say having an engineer that was raised in India constitutes as "diversity"
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Link to where anyone is saying those bare bad things.
...what?
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The OP specifically says diversity for the sake of diversity.
the OP, who is more than likely just being hyperbolic, says that is the only examples of diversity for him, but that isn't what he specifically asked
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:25 pm to Salmon
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:26 pm to Trevaylin
Diversity will sometimes lead to diversity of thought. Diversity of thought can easily help a company.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:27 pm to Trevaylin
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specific examples of diversity contributing to corporate earnings
I have two examples. An obvious one is an outfit like iHeartRadio. They have black, white, and hispanic DJs and programmers to appeal to different demographics. If they limited themselves to White Dudes, they'd do OK in New-Talk and Country, but they'd get wiped out in all other formats.
I used to work for a manufacturer in NOLA. We made jewelry and sculpture. Most of our jewelry workers were Vietnamese, while most of our sculptors were white hipsters. The jobs were broadly similar, working at a bench, making one piece at a time, etc. The Vietnamese brought experience & expertise with jewelry, and the hipsters brought the same for the art market. If we'd had to choose one or the other, we'd have survived, but our productivity was much higher with two ethnic groups as opposed to one.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:30 pm to Trevaylin
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I do not have any... 30 years of work at a large corporation where HR pushed diversity for diversity sake every year.
You worked at a corporation for 30 years that didn’t have any earnings?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:30 pm to Uptowner
good post
be prepared for the OT racists to tell you that you're wrong
be prepared for the OT racists to tell you that you're wrong
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:32 pm to Salmon
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Also, do we assume a white, black or brown people think differently based solely on the color of their skin? That sounds racist
Like how you completely didn’t address the main question and discussion of this topic. Did your company/client save money due to having an Indian guy on site or because the guy they hired actually had the right knowledge?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:34 pm to Salmon
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Again...its weird to me to think that people would want everyone to think alike.
This is a myth perpetuated by those who push "diversity".
Take any 10 men or women of the same race and ask them a series of questions and their thoughts will always be all over the place. No one is wired the same and thinks alike.
People are individuals, and have diverse ideas naturally. That is an easily proven fact, unlike the talking point that diversity strengthens a company.
The individual hired because they are more qualified for the position will benefit a company much more than someone hired because of what they look like.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:35 pm to Mantard
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Like how you completely didn’t address the main question and discussion of this topic.
how did I not address it?
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Did your company/client save money due to having an Indian guy on site or because the guy they hired actually had the right knowledge?
what if him being India allowed him to have the right knowledge? what if something in his background allowed him to be the key to the solution?
kinda an impossible question to answer, no?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:38 pm to Salmon
Well run businesses typically do things like interviews and bids. It doesn’t matter how he got the knowledge or what country it was in. He presented a plan to save money and had the expertise to execute it. Or are you saying your company just threw over a million bucks at an Indian guy just for the sake of diversity?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:39 pm to iAmBatman
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be prepared for the OT racists to tell you that you're wrong
Nice straw man you got there. No one in this thread has said hiring for diversity of thought is a bad thing.
Only when hiring for diversity means skin color. Which in many places it does.
Just like you can go to many media organizations and it may look like a model UN, but every single person thinks in lock-step.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:42 pm to Mantard
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Or are you saying your company just threw over a million bucks at an Indian guy just for the sake of diversity?
No.
I was giving an example of how diversity contributed to corporate earnings, or in this case, savings.
Which is exactly what the OP asked.
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