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re: Southwest Airlines has cancelled 69% of its flights so far today.

Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:10 pm to
I mean the first class thing is dumb but idk why you’re being downvoted so much

I just looked at charter jet prices and you’re actually right, if you’re flying a family, you can get a charter jet for not too much different
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:24 pm to
A family of 12 flying first class maybe
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Vermillionparish
Not home anymore
Member since Dec 2017
93 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:26 pm to
8 hours down, 4 to go. Damn you southwest
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5104 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:28 pm to
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if you’re flying a family, you can get a charter jet for not too much different
Flew a family of 5 roundtrip New Orleans to Honolulu for under $5K via Delta. I haven't checked charter prices in a while, but I'm guessing it would be significantly more expensive.

Around $2K/hour for a small turboprop when I looked 5 years ago, so around $60K for a 30 hour roundtrip?
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:45 pm to
depends on where you’re going I guess.

If you keep it to within an hour it’s not that different.

I’m seeing 2-5k for a flight hour which is just about anywhere at the eastern seaboard from ATL and you’ll drop 250 a ticket for delta Main Cabin easily and also have to pay for parking and deal with the airport.

It’s more expensive but not as more expensive as I’d expect.

Shrug.

This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 7:46 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:47 pm to
They are having computer issues. Nothing to do with what you posted.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:55 pm to
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They are having computer issues.


They’re having a bit more than computer issues

But yeah, not much of anything to do with FAA rest regs.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12592 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:55 pm to
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They are having computer issues


More like refusal to upgrade infrastructure to keep with the volume and the current climate. Even pilots are stuck and cant do a thing. The crews and pilots are available. Its their antiquated system thats fried! CEO needs to step down and lots of others fired
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76413 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:59 pm to
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and you’ll drop 250 a ticket for delta Main Cabin easily and also have to pay for parking and deal with the airport.


250 roundtrip vs 5k one way.

Pretty much the same.

That 5k doesn't include everything either. Especially if they don't have a backhaul.

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seeing 2-5k for a flight hour 


Fwiw, a flight hour from Atlanta wont get you to Jacksonville.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61281 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:03 pm to
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Its their antiquated system thats fried! CEO needs to step down and lots of others fired


Yep.
You know some of their managers and other consultants have warned them and tried to get them to upgrade, but that would cost money and might have hurt their bonuses and stock option.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9597 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:09 pm to
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like picking my seat.


No wonder why your fingers smell....
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:15 pm to
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The FAA regulates the number of hrs a pilot can fly in a day, month and a quarter. When airlines are short staffed, overtime early in the month affects the end of the month and the end of the quarter. They prob have pilots willing to come in, they just don’t have available FAA regulated duty time.


Not sure why you're getting downvoted. This was the reason that my Southwest flight was canceled a few days ago.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9597 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:19 pm to
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that is straight from SWA personnel at MSY.


People you know or what a gate agent told you?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:23 pm to
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. This was the reason that my Southwest flight was canceled a few days ago.


Mostly because a catastrophe of this scale doesn’t happen due to pilot rest rules. But yes, it does happen from time to time.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63029 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:24 pm to
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I mean the first class thing is dumb but idk why you’re being downvoted so much

I just looked at charter jet prices and you’re actually right, if you’re flying a family, you can get a charter jet for not too much different




LMAO
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:44 pm to
conveniently ignoring the “2k” part of the range.

1 hour gets you to alot of places.

I just checked the Delta app for Comfort+ out of ATL to ORL one way in June. 350/ticket to leave at 8am or 550/ticket to leave at 10 am.

Family of four to leave ATL at 10 am is 2200 one way for comfort+.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 8:44 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40239 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:45 pm to
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Its their antiquated system thats fried! CEO needs to step down and lots of others fired

You alike think that a company that runs as tight as SW does would have a top notch IT system and be heavily dependent on it.

They have fallen a long way from Herb.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22407 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:11 pm to
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You alike think that a company that runs as tight as SW does would have a top notch IT system and be heavily dependent on it.


You’d think they’d run stress tests that would help them prevent situations like this.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:27 pm to
So uh... spirit still getting places on time or they having issues too?
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
1012 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Damn FAA always coming down hard on SWA and letting every other carrier skirt the rules

If you believe this you haven’t been paying attention the last 30 years. No other airline has been more of a darling to the FAA and flying public than SWA. As mentioned above, as soon as the dust settles all will be forgiven and forgotten during their first post-meltdown fare sale.
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