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re: Southern hero Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson crossed over the river 154 years ago today
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:03 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:03 pm to magildachunks
You're still a dumbass. You don't seem to know what the word "treason" or "traitor" means.
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:14 pm to LongueCarabine
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You don't seem to know what the word "treason" or "traitor" means
Oh I do. The Confederates were traitors. Lee committed treason against the country he swore to protect and serve.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:15 pm to magildachunks
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Oh I do. The Confederates were traitors. Lee committed treason against the country he swore to protect and serve.
Boy, you sure are stuck on stupid.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:27 pm to LCA131
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read Rebel yell...great read
I just finished that book recently. Jackson was a unique individual. He seemed to be very reserved and God-fearing. As a professor I think he studied a lot of war history books and was one of the few to transfer that knowledge from a book to the battleground.
I think in any era he would have made a great tactician.
He alone probably kept the Confederacy in the war several months (or years) longer than they deserved to be considering all the disadvantages. He sucked out a lot of Federal troops into the Shenandoah when they (Yanks) could have just overwhelmed VA and Richmond and ended that shite pretty quickly.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 12:16 am
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:47 pm to LongueCarabine
According to the United States government, they committed treason.
Which is why President Johnson had to grant them pardons and amnesty.
"On July 4, 1868, President Johnson issued another proclamation of amnesty and pardon (15 Stat. 702) which was much broader in its application than that of May 29, 1865, in that it granted
"* * * unconditionally and without reservation, to all and to every person who directly or indirectly participated in the late insurrection or rebellion, excepting such person or persons as may be under presentment or indictment in any court of the United States having competent jurisdiction, upon a charge of treason or other felony, a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war * * *".
Which is why President Johnson had to grant them pardons and amnesty.
"On July 4, 1868, President Johnson issued another proclamation of amnesty and pardon (15 Stat. 702) which was much broader in its application than that of May 29, 1865, in that it granted
"* * * unconditionally and without reservation, to all and to every person who directly or indirectly participated in the late insurrection or rebellion, excepting such person or persons as may be under presentment or indictment in any court of the United States having competent jurisdiction, upon a charge of treason or other felony, a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war * * *".
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:12 pm to magildachunks
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According to the United States government....
Wrong. That was done so morons like you wouldn't try to take the law into their own hands out of some warped sense of justice.
Not one Confederate was ever convicted of treason, not even any of the leaders of the Confederacy.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:14 pm to LongueCarabine
They committed treason.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:14 pm to magildachunks
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They committed treason.
Too bad you can't understand the definition of treason.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:16 pm to LongueCarabine
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Too bad you can't understand the definition of treason.
Please Elaborate
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:19 pm to magildachunks
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Please Elaborate
I'll type R-E-A-L slow so you can understand.
They were never convicted of treason. They're not traitors.
Is that simple enough for you? Probably not.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:21 pm to LongueCarabine
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And yet another ignorant dumbass. As I ask every time this comes up, name a Confederate who was convicted of treason. Otherwise, STFU
"William B. Mumford, a citizen of New Orleans, having been convicted before a military commission of treason and an overt act thereof, tearing down the United States flag from a public building of the United States, after said flag was placed there by Commodore Farragut, of the United States navy: It is ordered that he be executed according to sentence of said military commission on Saturday, June 7, inst., between the hours of 8 a.m. and 12 a.m. under the directions of the provost-marshal of the District of New Orleans, and for so doing this shall be his sufficient warrant."
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:24 pm to LongueCarabine
They absolutely committed treason. Anyone saying they didn't immediately loses all credibility. They swore to protect the Union. They decided their states were more important.
The Founding Fathers also committed treason. The French Revolution was also an act of treason. Julius and Augustus Caesar committed an act of treason. When you commit an act of treason you better win.
The South had some brillliant, brave, heroic men...that were fighting for slavery/their state legislatures and rhetoric that wanted to keep slavery. STATES RIGHTS!!! A states right to have slaves. Which don't get me wrong doesn't make them evil, that was the times they lived in, a lot of northerners were racist as hell. But it's a good thing the South lost. We'd be weak, divided, a Europe in North America. We don't have nearly the strength to intervene in either World War. One of us probably allies with the Axis against the other. The west likely becomes its own country, or several own countries. The Confederacy probably breaks apart into smaller sovereign nations with roughly the importance of Estonia. Assuming Britain/Russia somehow wins WW2 we aren't a unified force to combat communism. Communism probably takes hold in one of our now likely four or five countries.
Robert E Lee and Stonewall are like Hannibal. Admire them, study them, but be fricking glad they lost
The Founding Fathers also committed treason. The French Revolution was also an act of treason. Julius and Augustus Caesar committed an act of treason. When you commit an act of treason you better win.
The South had some brillliant, brave, heroic men...that were fighting for slavery/their state legislatures and rhetoric that wanted to keep slavery. STATES RIGHTS!!! A states right to have slaves. Which don't get me wrong doesn't make them evil, that was the times they lived in, a lot of northerners were racist as hell. But it's a good thing the South lost. We'd be weak, divided, a Europe in North America. We don't have nearly the strength to intervene in either World War. One of us probably allies with the Axis against the other. The west likely becomes its own country, or several own countries. The Confederacy probably breaks apart into smaller sovereign nations with roughly the importance of Estonia. Assuming Britain/Russia somehow wins WW2 we aren't a unified force to combat communism. Communism probably takes hold in one of our now likely four or five countries.
Robert E Lee and Stonewall are like Hannibal. Admire them, study them, but be fricking glad they lost
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:25 pm to brmark70816
William Mumford
Ah yes. A victim of "Spoons" Butler. Executed for tearing down a US flag.
I thought all you libtards just love people who desecrate the US flag.
Ah yes. A victim of "Spoons" Butler. Executed for tearing down a US flag.
I thought all you libtards just love people who desecrate the US flag.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:30 pm to LongueCarabine
Treason-the crime of betraying ones country, attempting to overthrow the government. The USA of America was the lawful government of the Southern States. They attempted to overthrow it. The fact that the North pardoned everyone because they wanted things to go back to normal doesn't erase the fact. Saying no one was convicted of treason so they didn't do it is like saying Aaron Hernandez didn't commit murder bc technically he's exonerated
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:30 pm to weagle99
I couldn't care less about the statues, but removing them has has you guys this upset? Way to go honor some dishonorable people.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:30 pm to brmark70816
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Carpet bagger? I was raised in Alabama, graduated from LSU and live in Texas. I'm as ignorant as they come..
FIFY
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:30 pm to LongueCarabine
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They were never convicted of treason. They're not traitors.
Convicted and committed are not the same thing.
they committed treason. They were given either a pardon or amnesty for committing the act of treason.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:37 pm to LongueCarabine
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I thought all you libtards just love people who desecrate the US flag.
I'm not a liberal or a democrat. I just called your bluff, proved you wrong and made you look like an arse. You demanded a name, well I gave you one. A confederate, arrested for treason and hanged for it..
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:43 pm to magildachunks
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They were never convicted of treason. They're not traitors.
Convicted and committed are not the same thing.
they committed treason.
Innocent until proven guilty and very few (if any) were proven guilty in a court of law.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:50 pm to WeeWee
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Innocent until proven guilty and very few (if any) were proven guilty in a court of law.
And the guys who killed 14 year old Emmett Till were acquitted too so what?
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