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re: Southern hero Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson crossed over the river 154 years ago today

Posted on 5/11/17 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2173 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 3:54 pm to
Can not separate the two. The Confederacy was The South. The South was the Confederacy like it or not. I for one will be forever Unreconstructed.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
595 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 4:16 pm to
Stop arguing about slavery and succession.

Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson might very well be the most naturally gifted and talented military commander since Alexander The Great.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:37 am to
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tigerfan88


thanks for responding...I do think that Lincoln provoked...bacuase it was in Charleston where he decided to make a stand...many of the other forts/installations had already laid down arms peacefully...Fort Sumter was specifically ordered not to do so...why?...because Lincoln knew that was where the most rebellious were located...he knew it would end up with them firing first...making it look as if the South was attacking first when that is really not what they wanted...contrary to popular belief and the way history has been taught...they did not want to fight...they just wanted to leave

I understand the view that our country would have been weakened by a "blackmail" type situation but that wasn't really my suggestion...a special congress...selected to meet in a neutral location and made up of new representatives could have come up with some kind of give and take....no it wasn't ideal to not let the official Congress granted authority by the Constitution to handle the problems at hand...but we see even in our own day how ineffective that body can be when hardened along the aisle

I don't agree that the C.S.A. would have ever fought against the U.S.A. in later wars though...I would actually think they would be very strong allies down the road due to basically and literally being family.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:40 am to
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General Sherman fan myself. GOAT.


why?...all he did was carry out the orders given to him by Grant...Sherman was no tactician and strategist...he was just ruthless and didn't give two shits about burning Georgia in half nor the resident civilian population of the state...why is he the GOAT?...what did he do that made him such a great leader...being a shitty enough person to carry out the heinous acts that Grant directed him to do?


frick Sherman...hope he is burning in hell
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8125 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:49 am to
stonewall ruled. read Rebel yell...great read. beyond most of you stupid fricks.



I met Gwynn in the Atlanta airport. I have a signed copy of Rebel Yell. Excellent read. Empire of Summer Moon equally as great.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:56 am to
That you Mitch?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36635 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:06 am to
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why?...all he did was carry out the orders given to him by Grant...Sherman was no tactician and strategist...he was just ruthless and didn't give two shits about burning Georgia in half nor the resident civilian population of the state...why is he the GOAT?...what did he do that made him such a great leader...being a shitty enough person to carry out the heinous acts that Grant directed him to do?


frick Sherman...hope he is burning in hell





If the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war, and not popularity seeking.- William Tecumseh Sherman
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