re: Southern hero Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson crossed over the river 154 years ago today

The south was not trying to overthrow the government, it was trying to get away from it, quite a difference.

The Civil War was no different than the Revolutionary War with the exception that the oppressor was the victor.

At the rate this country is going I'm not so sure I would agree with you on that last part. Furthermore slavery was only going to last another one to two decades at most before technology would make the use of slaves unnecessary and uneconomical. I suspect a reunion would have happened down the road.

I never said slavery wasn't wrong, also those are very dramatic terms that would describe a small minority of slave treatment in the south not the majority.

Most people can not look at slavery in the light as it was seen then which gives most a skewed and inaccurate view.
Also most today were taught a flawed history which doesn't help the matter.

Stonewall Jackson was one of the brightest generals in the history of the planet and also happens to have been one of the devoutest Christians in the history of the religion

I HIGHLY recommend "Rebel Yell" to anyone who might be remotely interested in him, personally I am in awe of the man

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The majority were not brutalized or tortured, treated as property, sure. But if you think plantation owners went around beating their slaves day in and day out... Well you're just dumb. Why would they starve and beat slaves to death constantly when their livelihood depended on the slaves work?

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You cannot be this stupid. You take people, rip them away from their families and friends, sell them at a whim. They have no rights, no voice, no say, no freedom of movement and can't study or believe what they want. You force them to work when you want and how long you want. You give them rags to wear, scraps to eat (horrible diet trends that exist to this day). Yes, they are beaten and abused when they resist. You breed them, you take their children and repeat the cycle. You make them live in horrible conditions. I can keep going on, but it's just not necessary. It is, was and has always been pure evil. There is no romanticizing it or degrees that make it acceptable in some cases..

Proving my point about how most were taught flawed history.

Do yourself a favor and study up on the subject so you are not as ignorant on it.

You're preaching to the choir on some of this stuff. The fact that the "evil what patriarchy south" gets lambasted for slavery as if it was the only civilization that perpetrated it is absurd. It was Africans who kidnapped and sold their fellow Africans into slavery, just as eager to make a profit as white people.

That being said, by 1860 the South was really the only part of the Western world still practicing deep institutionalize official slavery. Not only practicing it, but so devoutly believed in it that they were willing to tear apart the country and betray their oaths for it. Stonewall was a legend, so was Lee and so was Longstreet, and I don't think any of the three were evil people. In fact they were all good men. It doesn't change the fact that their cause was unjust, not only bc of slavery, but bc they were trying to tear apart a country bc they didn't like how an election went

Yes, let's look to Brazil for guiding lights of civilization and justice. Western civilization...aka Europe. Keep beating that neo-Confederate Lost Cause drum. The South fought over slavery and lost, and then successfully managed to propagandize the war as a patriotic defense of their way of life.

"T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them."

—?George Henry Thomas, November 1868.[13]

George Henry Thomas was a Virginian who didn't abandon his oaths of loyalty to the United States Army. Probably the best pure tactician in the Union Army funnily enough. Virginia does military generals and Presidents like no ones business

Blacks were used as political pawns then just like they are today.

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Okay? What's your point? It is something that has been done for thousands of years. I have ancestors who owned slaves. And I have ancestors who were slaves. As do you. And every. Single. Other. Person.

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New World Slavery slavery of the south was much different than ancient slavery or that of the Near East.

Which ancestors of yours were enslaved?