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re: Something to consider before deciding to help a stranger who is being assaulted

Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:29 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37647 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:29 am to
This was a perfect example of the bystander effect.
Not to mention people being fearful of getting stabbed if they assisted her while he was still on the train.

This is also a perfect example of an animal who needs a speedy trial and the death penalty carried out on the same day.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17225 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Do you have a lawyer on retainer that you can call day or night? If not, what is your plan if you are involved in an event at 11PM on a Thursday?


Shockingly yes, one of my best friends and if I really got in a bind I know I could get to SFP through the same connections.

Or how about just calling my father and telling him to come get me. That would be even easier.

I wouldn’t talk to the police.

No record. Sexy white chocolate skin.

This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 11:31 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1552 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Breaking up a bar fight is a whole different scenario that helping an overmatched girl fight off a career criminal.


Yep, the career criminal is probably more comfortable stabbing you than bar patrons.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1552 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Shockingly yes, one of my best friends and if I really got in a bind I know I could get to SFP through the same connections. Or how about just calling my father and telling him to come get me. That would be even easier. I wouldn’t talk to the police. No record. Sexy white chocolate skin.


Nice! You are way ahead of most.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14710 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:32 am to
quote:

You’re making assumptions about what I would or wouldn’t do. The OP doesn’t include any of that info.


You OP states, "do you put strangers above your own family" and to "think it through."


So, then what would you do? Would you sit there and watch her bleed out?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17225 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Nice! You are way ahead of most.


It’s not about being ahead it’s about being prepared.

Don’t talk to the police is the only thing you need to know.

Use your call to get your most trusted person to contact who you need contacted to let them know where you are.

You need to plan on spending a couple night in jail.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1552 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:36 am to
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So, then what would you do? Would you sit there and watch her bleed out?


I would render aid when I could.

Would I dive in there and try to save someone during an attack if I was at a disadvantage? No. I’m not cannon fodder.

Would I do it on equal footing? Likely also no.

If I had some type of advantage? Yes.

Would I ever break up a fist fight between people I don’t know? Nope.

I get that we all want to imagine sneaking up and putting a 40gr down this dude’s ear canal, but life normally doesn’t happen like that.

This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 11:41 am
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12095 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:38 am to
God forbid that my daughters are ever in a situation CLOSE to this, but I would hope that someone would speak up or intervene if they needed help.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
2029 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:39 am to
If you are referring to the murdered Ukranian girl. First off, I don't have a wife and kids. Never worked out for me (i do have a girlfriend). I watch the bystanders in that video and it makes me nauseous but I do somewhat understand their trepidation. As for me, the dude would be in a rear naked chokehold faster than he could scream "Get Off Me Holmes". He might stab my forearm once or twice, but he will be unconscious in short order. And once my forearm is caving in his Adams apple, he will be in escape only/panic only mode. I'm only on this earth once. Either be legendary (leave a positive impact on this cruel world) or live and die like all the other sheep. I see my younger sister, my niece, in that young girls terrified face. I wouldn never be able to look myself in the mirror again if i stood by idly. Now you can "Keyboard Warrior" B.S. all you want. I give zero fricks. Quite a few of you guys on this board know me personally.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14710 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I would render aid when I could.



quote:

Would I dive in there and try to save someone during an if I was at a disadvantage? No. Would I do it on equal footing? Likely also no. If I ahd some type of advantage? Yes.

Let's just hope you're never in a situation where someone needs you.

quote:

Would I ever break up a fist fight between people I don’t know? Nope.

This wasn't a fist fight and there was no breaking this up. He did it so unexpectedly.


To be clear, no one was stopping this attack but someone could've at least called 911 or just asked if she was ok.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12845 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:50 am to
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putting a 40gr

You carry a .22LR?
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9509 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:55 am to
You’re taking the point of view of a coward with no integrity. Do better
Posted by PalletJack
LA by birth, TX by choice
Member since Oct 2024
860 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:56 am to
Tis better to die as a hero than live as a coward
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10958 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:59 am to
Just say you're not a man, you're a huge pussy. I'm sorry, I wasn't raised to be a fricking sheep and sit around while the wolves pray on innocents.

How fricking soy are you?
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1552 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I wasn't raised to be a fricking sheep and sit around while the wolves pray on innocents.


Rushing into a situation where you have a clear disadvantage which will likely result in your death or serious injury isn’t bravery, it’s stupidity.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10958 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:04 pm to
Just admit you're a coward. stop tiptoeing around the fact that you were raised to be a pussy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107804 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:06 pm to
I’m only risking my life for my family

If I am comfortable believing I can definitely subdue the threat I will also help a stranger. If not, I would likely not intervene

I would imagine that’s how 99% of people really are, but only 5% of people say that on the internet

I would 100% help with all measures running afterwards once there is no threat
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14710 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:13 pm to
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I’m only risking my life for my family

If I am comfortable believing I can definitely subdue the threat I will also help a stranger. If not, I would likely not intervene

I would imagine that’s how 99% of people really are, but only 5% of people say that on the internet

I would 100% help with all measures running afterwards once there is no threat


You're probably right about that 99%.

I wonder if "women and children first" still applies today. I don't think it does. Let's swap out the chick on the train with an 8yr old little girl. Would we help then? I would like to think we would.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107804 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:15 pm to
I would like to say yes, but honestly, if a random little girl was getting beaten by someone like an NFL linebacker, and I was unarmed, I don’t think I would. I would like to say I would just throw myself in there to get killed as well but I bet I wouldn’t nor would most

Putting yourself into a situation where you will likely get killed seems like it would be pretty hard to do
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17123 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:20 pm to
I tell people all the time I don’t get emotional about people I don’t know. That rubs people the wrong way. But, when I say that, that doesn’t include a real person that is near me. If I see a person being attacked my instinct is going to be to help. Logically like the OP says, it may not make sense, but instincts to help will overrule logic. I know because it’s happened before.
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