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Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:26 pm to
Moaaaaar guns
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74206 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:28 pm to
It is statistical malpractice to take single time frame comparisons between two separate nations and attribute a difference in something to a single variable.
In order to truly establish a causal relationship you need to know:

A) what the homicide rates in Europeans nations would be if they had our gun ownership level

B) what the homicide rates in America would be if we had strict gun control

We don’t have that data

ETA: love the downvotes.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:30 pm to
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And how many countries are as large and diverse as the U.S.?


Exactly. Rolling back the clock on American gun ownership is a non starter. There is something in the neighborhood of 400 million guns in this country. It's simply not plausible to get them back.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:37 pm to
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quote:

It does not. What I've found, is that your eyes follow the laser dot instead of the intended target. Once you shoot once, that dot bounces up, and then you waste valuable time trying to find it again and put it back on target. Not to mention the fact that his hands will be shaking like crazy.


bingo.

novice shooters also tend to "point shoot" and not even use sights or look for a laser



all this.. only a woman or nerdy fig would even attempt to use a laser. Useless gimmick
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19386 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:40 pm to
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And still I would much rather take my chances on a guy with a knife than a gun




You ever heard of the 21 foot rule?




Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:41 pm to
Are the guns OK?

Thoughts n prayers,too soon, etc
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:43 pm to
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I am very active in the 3-gun, USPSA, and IPSC communities. wanna know how many of those guys use lasers?

0.

Complete gimmick. Made for dorks like this shooter.

You're right, I guess you know more than SOCom operators and USMC infantrymen.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Are the guns OK? Thoughts n prayers,too soon, etc


And our first Rant Tard makes his appearance
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:44 pm to
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And our first Rant Tard makes his appearance


Pretty sure he has Aspergers.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:46 pm to
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Moaaaaar guns


...in the hands of law abiding citizens might have saved the day...there, fixed!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89816 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Well, the very liberal types that want the gun control make their living in Hollywood glorifying gun violence in their movies.


This is what I don't get. Many people against it glorify it in music and television.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74206 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Are the guns OK?

Thoughts n prayers,too soon, etc
What SPECIFIC policy that has been tossed around by politicians recently would have prevented this shooting?

I will hang up and listen.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:48 pm to
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Are the guns OK?


Sure, because they prevent a crapload of crime before it happens yet is seldom ever reported on. Nice try though.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14933 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:49 pm to
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will hang up and listen.



Do you still have dial up Internet? Is that why you have to hang up your phone to read the internet?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89816 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:50 pm to
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Exactly. Rolling back the clock on American gun ownership is a non starter. There is something in the neighborhood of 400 million guns in this country. It's simply not plausible to get them back.


That's another thing, law abiding citizens may hand them over, but the rest won't. And that includes people that serve the government. Yeah, go ahead and try.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:54 pm to
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That's another thing, law abiding citizens may hand them over


Nope.

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:54 pm to
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what the homicide rates in America would be if we had strict gun control


Let’s use DC and Chicago as a case study
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68043 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:56 pm to
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You're right, I guess you know more than SOCom operators and USMC infantrymen.


Being MIL =/= competent shooter. Some of the worst shooters I know are Mil/LEO, and most don't know jack shite about gear - they just know what they're issued

I don't know a of a single SF unit that uses lasers. They'll use infrared lasers like DBALs and MAWLs for NV ops (because they have to - you can't use traditional optics with most NV gear), but that's about it.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11060 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:58 pm to
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TigerJeff



people like you suck. I'm sure you and those that are around you daily already know that.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:01 pm to
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The United states is still quite a bit higher in homicides than both France and the UK.


The rate of violent crime in the US in comparison to the UK has remained effectively the same since before the UK instituted its gun restrictions
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