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re: Societal shift of the past 60 years

Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:34 pm to
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See that’s just an incorrect view of civilizations throughout history. In Ancient Greece for example, depending on which city-State you lived in your father may have had very little to do with your actual childhood, especially if you were a girl.

But other city-states were different. I would say the ones you’re talking about are exceptions, and maybe the period of 1960-2040 or so will turn out to be an exception as well. Kinda weird to think about.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34648 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:36 pm to
The left played the long game of destroying the two parent Christian household and we are seeing the results
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:36 pm to
Baby boomers destroyed the fabric of society.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141632 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:37 pm to
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That was covered under "respect for elders". I think it applies even if he didn't say "respect for elders, specifically in the realm of entertainment".
Groucho was not complaining about respect, rather the very unrealistic portrayal of "7 year olds spouting bon mots that would do Noel Coward proud" (non-verbatim quote from reading Groucho's memoirs 20+ years ago).
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31895 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:38 pm to
I agree with the premise that family values in many communities has changed greatly since the 50’s.

I disagree with the premise that what were considered family values in the 50’s were considered family values for the past several thousand years
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48348 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:40 pm to
Two income homes became more the norm starting with the 1960s feminist movements (but going back to WWII). This led to price increases and inflation as these newly formed two income homes became more the norm.

In recent times it's become a requirement for many people to have two incomes in order to sustain a middle class lifestyle and have a family. Both adults working changed much of the traditional roles of the relationship.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:46 pm to
Then the post applies to one of the underlining topics of the thread (that older generations have always complained about younger) which your post appeared to me to be in support of. I just thought you were using Groucho to make the larger argument, rather than such a specific point. In any case, I'm not going to further defend a quote that was posted in agreement with you.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 4:47 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48348 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Then the post applies to one of the underlining topics of the thread (that older generations have always complained about younger) which your post appeared to me to be in support of.

My paw paw hated the damn hippies according to my dad
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141632 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:49 pm to
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I'm not going to further defend a quote that was posted in agreement with you.
Good

I win
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:50 pm to
My grandpa used to make all his kids yell "HIPPIE-HIPPIE-HIPPIE!!!!" out the car windows whenever they passed a guy with long hair.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:55 pm to
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I win
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:59 pm to
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So what’s changed?


Mothers left the home, and went to work. Raising their children were left up to others, (daycare, preschool, etc.) when in the 70's and earlier mothers were home raising their own children. Teaching them family values, rights, and wrongs. Parents have so little time for their children, they miss them growing up. Except on the weekends. That is what changed.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

On the show, the parents are depicted fulfilling "traditional" roles which were pretty much the same for thousands of years.
There was plenty of dysfunction back then. Normal people just weren't exposed to it. Is it worse now, sure, but it wasn't nearly as idyllic in the past as it's portrayed.
Posted by GhostofRicht
Member since Sep 2019
62 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

So what’s changed?
What has changed is that the betas are finally able to YELL loud enough to get their voices heard. So these other betas from other places are able to hear them and join in on the beta cause. Then you got the media who will do anything for a view, who will promote these beta freaks and then everyone else thinks that this is the norm since it is constantly being shown on the news.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58089 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

tigerinthebueche


quote:


oh look, another young buck with soft palms. Would you prefer I refer to you with the Non-binary pronoun "they"?




Let's see if I can build the mental image of you.
Over 65 and complains about shite non-stop
Only occasionally shaves and sometimes has skoal juice running down the chin

Wears a trucker style cap most everwhere, including the nice buffet restaurant on Sundays.

Drinks bud and other cheap beers and calls anyone who drinks anything else a soy boy.

Has at least two belts with his name on it.

Has a miserable wife.

Pick up truck has dents and scratches all over it and a few torn up political bumper stickers. Keeps the old david duke sticker in the top dresser drawer.

How did I do?
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2181 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:44 pm to
Recently watched this show for the first time ( I’m 35) man what a time warp
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2181 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:47 pm to
Dammm it went this far , I thought we’re talking about some old arse show.... y’all remember Archie bunker he was funny too wtf
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22188 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Lol, so everyone should be miserable all the time so men can be 'strong' by your definition?





There was no "should" in his post. Just an observation on what seem to be cyclical events.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5503 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:32 pm to
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On the show, the parents are depicted fulfilling "traditional" roles which were pretty much the same for thousands of years. Dad does the masculine things, Mom does the feminine things. The kids knew their place and respected their parents.


You mean the kids took their beatings in silence?

You fricking luddites are the worst.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72867 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:33 pm to
The Fifties were the good old days. Won’t see that again
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