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re: Societal shift of the past 60 years
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:31 pm to RidiculousHype
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:31 pm to RidiculousHype
Consider that your ideas of what is masculine and feminine have been shaped by that television show and other tropes repeatedly observed in modern culture.
Had you been raised in a matriarchal culture, for example, you would find this male-dominated government and business society utterly baffling.
There is nothing to “blame”. There’s nothing wrong with women working and men being housekeepers. It was never in our DNA. It was never nature’s law. There is no natural order being violated.
Had you been raised in a matriarchal culture, for example, you would find this male-dominated government and business society utterly baffling.
There is nothing to “blame”. There’s nothing wrong with women working and men being housekeepers. It was never in our DNA. It was never nature’s law. There is no natural order being violated.
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Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:32 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:
So what’s changed?
Technology replaced agriculture
Corporations (TV, media) raise the kids instead of your family
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:32 pm to RidiculousHype
Two things have really changed -
The size of the community has changed. What was once a few dozen or couple hundred at most, is now litereally world-wide. We used to have importance to our societal peers, now you're one of billions. Our societal based evolutionary behavior and egos are having huge problems with this.
Teenagers stopped having to work in fields, in stores, and basically ended up having nothing to do. Entire industries have sprung up in order to filfull the time vacuum that developed. That caused the first rift modern counter-culture in the 1960s.
The size of the community has changed. What was once a few dozen or couple hundred at most, is now litereally world-wide. We used to have importance to our societal peers, now you're one of billions. Our societal based evolutionary behavior and egos are having huge problems with this.
Teenagers stopped having to work in fields, in stores, and basically ended up having nothing to do. Entire industries have sprung up in order to filfull the time vacuum that developed. That caused the first rift modern counter-culture in the 1960s.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:33 pm to The Spleen
You sir hit the nail on the head.
Back in the good ole days wasn’t nearly as great as people like to think and today is not as bad as they think.
Too many people read doom and gloom and see all the crappy stuff on social media and think that is all that society is about.
Back in the good ole days wasn’t nearly as great as people like to think and today is not as bad as they think.
Too many people read doom and gloom and see all the crappy stuff on social media and think that is all that society is about.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:34 pm to The Spleen
quote:It wasn't reality
Thinking a TV show was a reflection of reality is insane
It was an ideal
The ideal now is My Two Daddies where one is a black muslim
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:34 pm to notiger1997
My son who is 36 and is a poster here is a lot better Dad than I ever was. He is not the hard arse that I was,and his grandfather was ,and his great grandfather was. But he has knowledge,qualities and values that were rooted in the hard arses before him.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:35 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:
Lol, so everyone should be miserable all the time so men can be 'strong' by your definition?
not necessarily, but you soyboys who have never faced any real hardhips are weak as frick. Our fathers and grand fathers were fighting the Hun and Japs. Or living thru the great depression. Or fighting on Hill 53. Or slogging thru jungles in Nam.
What challenges have you faced? Choosing Cable or Hulu? Oh the horror.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:36 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:
Lol, so everyone should be miserable all the time so men can be 'strong' by your definition?
Maybe we should temper our total abandon to the pleasures of the flesh and make things a bit harder on people so they appreciate it more.
We reward all the WRONG types of behaviour.
Well...more like a certain subsection of the government and media do...almost as if they had some sort of...agenda
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
Get off my lawn!!!
Soy boy is the lamest term used on this board
Soy boy is the lamest term used on this board
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:37 pm to The Spleen
quote:
. Divorce wasn't as common because it was still a male-dominated society where women were marginalized.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:38 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:Libtards
So what’s changed?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
not necessarily, but you soyboys who have never faced any real hardhips are weak as frick. Our fathers and grand fathers were fighting the Hun and Japs. Or living thru the great depression. Or fighting on Hill 53. Or slogging thru jungles in Nam.
What challenges have you faced? Choosing Cable or Hulu? Oh the horror.
Yes, your fathers and grandfathers went to war, but what fricking hardships have you had to endure that chiseled your spirit into stone? My father and grandfather also went to war. Should I go to war bc some dude on a message board called me a 'soyboy'?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:38 pm to RidiculousHype
I think some things were better back then but I wouldn't make any judgments based on TV or movies. The CIA had their hands in a lot of the media back then (probably still do) with the goal of making American society look ideal.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:38 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:38 pm to Tigerstark
quote:This was a recognized urban social problem by the Civil War, caused by the industrial revolution
Teenagers stopped having to work in fields, in stores, and basically ended up having nothing to do. Entire industries have sprung up in order to filfull the time vacuum that developed. That caused the first rift modern counter-culture in the 1960s.
One of the teachers in Blackboard Jungle (1955) comments that their job is really to keep the kids off the streets during the day.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:39 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Our fathers and grand fathers were fighting the Hun and Japs.
If doing these things is what makes you tough, what were our fathers and grandfathers before the war?
Before they became “The Greatest Generation”, they probably had old men complaining about how soft those kids were, how their grandfathers killed men in the Civil War and that’s real toughness.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:39 pm to Kafka
Uninhibited access to social media has warped their sense of value and made them zombies
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:40 pm to notiger1997
quote:
Get off my lawn!!!
oh look, another young buck with soft palms. Would you prefer I refer to you with the Non-binary pronoun "they"?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:41 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:In case you missed it there have been wars on for the last 20 years. Sure, a smaller percentage of the population have participated but many of us were there.
not necessarily, but you soyboys who have never faced any real hardhips are weak as frick. Our fathers and grand fathers were fighting the Hun and Japs. Or living thru the great depression. Or fighting on Hill 53. Or slogging thru jungles in Nam.
What challenges have you faced? Choosing Cable or Hulu? Oh the horror.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:43 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
oh look, another young buck with soft palms. Would you prefer I refer to you with the Non-binary pronoun "they"?
Please come up with something creative, original and/or funny with your next response plz and stop wasting everyones time
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