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re: Social Security has 6 years left, cut benefits or raise taxes?
Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:52 pm to armytiger96
Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:52 pm to armytiger96
The Feds are not giving up their tool for incentivizing and punishing behavior — the tax code.
It’s not going to happen.
It’s not going to happen.
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Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:54 pm to TigerintheNO
Just give it some Tariff money. Make somebody else make it solvent.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:53 pm to SLIPSHITE
I apologize to everyone in this thread. Especially Scruffy.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 11:12 pm to armytiger96
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This notion of "fair share" is media narrative to infuriate the masses and create class warfare.
Congrats, you fell for the brainwashing .
“Blame everything on the media” isn’t just a stupid take, it is a prime example of LAZY thinking .
Posted on 3/22/26 at 11:37 pm to BK Lounge
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“Blame everything on the media” isn’t just a stupid take, it is a prime example of LAZY thinking .
No, listening to and trusting the media is LAZY thinking. Reading the articles, understanding the flaws of the articles, and the ability to recognize motives behind the articles is critical thinking.
Since you have such in depth critical thinking skills perhaps you can explain how 5% of a population pays 2/3s of all tax revenue but isn't paying their fair share. Please enlighten us what is their fare share? Since the articles never define it.
Then you can also explain how it's mathematically possible to cut taxes across the board and it not benefit the top 5% more than the other 95%.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 11:54 pm to Scruffy
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I would drop 50 years of paid SS taxes for the sake of my daughter’s future
And this why boomers dont understand why they are probably the most selfish generation.
They won't do this. They haven't voted like this was their plan.
They've only voted, and continue to vote to, "get theirs." They've "given enough" for future generations. They are tapped out from sacrificing. They have limits.
They've never allowed politicians to even think out loud about doing something about SS.
I'd give up everything I've put in so that my kids dont have to deal with it.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:51 am to llfshoals
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No one is stopping you from declining yours.
You clearly misunderstood.
I am willing to pay 50 years of SS taxes knowing I will never receive a dime in exchange for my children and all future children of the USA never having to pay into SS again.
I am willing to sacrifice a portion of my finances to make a better world for my children, an action complete foreign to you guys apparently.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:56 am to TigerintheNO
The social security having X number of years left has been a regular occurring story since at least 1985 that I can remember.
Very similar to Miami going under water and Republicans want to kill your grandparents.
Very similar to Miami going under water and Republicans want to kill your grandparents.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:29 am to Scruffy
quote:To be clear have you already paid those 50 years of taxes?
You clearly misunderstood. I am willing to pay 50 years of SS taxes knowing I will never receive a dime in exchange for my children and all future children of the USA never having to pay into SS again.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:36 am to llfshoals
He hasn't, but he says he's willing to anyway.
His offer is great, but it's never going to happen.
There are more people willing to suck the government tit than not, and those people vote.
A lot.
Hell, the entire top-tier taxpayers could make the same offer and it still wouldn't be nearly enough.
His offer is great, but it's never going to happen.
There are more people willing to suck the government tit than not, and those people vote.
A lot.
Hell, the entire top-tier taxpayers could make the same offer and it still wouldn't be nearly enough.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You don't see the problem here?
Absolutely, I see the problem here. The problem being - Joe Biden and your democrat pals stole Social Security and now they're sending out you bleeding hearts to shame retirees for demanding the government honor it's commitment.
Yep, I see the democrats do this all the time - pit one generation against another, pit one race against another, one gender against another. The standard democrat modus operandi in all situations - divide, divide, divide.
It's our money.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:47 am to TigerintheNO
As has been posted on here many times:
SS is a Ponzi scheme you are required to participate in
If you were born after 1972ish you will receive greatly reduced benefits compared to current drawers
SS was never intended to be the sole entity for someone to live off of in retirement just like fast food jobs are not 'career'
If you are planning to rely on SS for retirement you are preparing to fail.
If our benevolent federal government would offer me a one time lump sum payment of half of what I have put in to opt out of SS I would do it and come out further ahead than the people who continue in the Ponzi scheme.
Baby Boomers are going to bankrupt both SS and Medicare
SS is a Ponzi scheme you are required to participate in
If you were born after 1972ish you will receive greatly reduced benefits compared to current drawers
SS was never intended to be the sole entity for someone to live off of in retirement just like fast food jobs are not 'career'
If you are planning to rely on SS for retirement you are preparing to fail.
If our benevolent federal government would offer me a one time lump sum payment of half of what I have put in to opt out of SS I would do it and come out further ahead than the people who continue in the Ponzi scheme.
Baby Boomers are going to bankrupt both SS and Medicare
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 10:48 am
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:28 pm to N2cars
quote:My 90 year old mother can’t exactly do that though.
He hasn't, but he says he's willing to anyway.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:30 pm to TigerintheNO
Eliminate the cap on wages in its entirety and its fully funded for 44 years at least. If you look at the curve of wage cap increases over time they have fricked the middle class in favor of wage earners in the top 6% every time its been raised. 94% of wage earners in the US pay ss taxes on every penny of income. Eliminate the wage cap and cap benefits to the max they are capped now and frick the 6% who earn above the cap. IN exchange for that make it MUCH harder to qualify for disability AND criminally prosecute the industry of doctors and lawyers who work people who are too damned lazy to work through the process when they are clearly not disabled. And raise full retirement age commisurate with extended life expectancy. It ain't rocket science but its too damned much for Washington.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:34 pm to TigerintheNO
My whole life has been filled with that threat.....benefits still available and increasing with the inflation rate....
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:04 pm to TigerintheNO
Give me back my money.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:19 pm to TigerintheNO
they opened the locked box of ss in 1981. There was so much surplus, it was used to bail out farmers who at that time owed the most debt to this country. There are many great farmers but they are some who are just as bad as the somali bunch.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:54 pm to AwgustaDawg
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94% of wage earners in the US pay ss taxes on every penny of income.
But collectively they only pay 1/3 of all income taxes. So according to you the Top 6% of earners should have to pay 66% of all income taxes and 66% of all SS taxes. Yet you will still be crying they don't pay their fair share!
In your opinion the guy making $350,000 should double his contribution instead of putting that money in investments outside of government control and have the ability to fund his own retirement. Do they remove the cap on his benefits as well or are we going to keep those in place? In your scenario, is it only fair that he contributes twice as much to get the same benefit. Yeah that makes sense. They should let the program die before they do that. Unfortunately, this is probably where we are headed. Either that or a means test. So the ones that sacrificed lifestyle for 40 years in order to save for retirement will now get to support the ones that didn't save up for retirement.
The cap on SS is probably the most fair part of any of our taxes outside of a sales tax and you want to change it.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:56 pm to Scruffy
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Kill it entirely.
^^ This. End this Ponzi scheme before it bankrupts us completely.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:03 pm to TigerintheNO
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Social Security has 6 years left, cut benefits or raise taxes?
End it and give me my money back
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 6:03 pm
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