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re: So all the new science is pointing out COVID isn't as bad as the normal Flu

Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:57 pm to
Sorry for standing with our president. Keep your TDS in check.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:58 pm to
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sarcastically




I think trump has handled this exceedingly well given the circumstances.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:59 pm to
Every covid post has you in the first dozen posts making some snide remark. Not necessarily saying I disagree with you.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:00 am to
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Sorry for standing with our president. Keep your TDS in check.


I thought he got cucked by Fauci and crashed the economy?

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Imagine voting for the guy who got cucked by fauci and crashed the economy. What a dumbfrick lol


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Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:05 am to
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Every covid post has you in the first dozen posts making some snide remark.


I just find it funny that the normal trump crew has completely disregarded what he's actually said and done over the last two months. He has taken this mostly seriously starting in late february and Trump himself has stated that shutting down was the correct choice. I just find it comical that the people melting over shutting down will happily vote for the guy who clearly and unequivocally said it was the right thing to do.

If you think that it was the wrong course of action and has destroyed our economy, why support the guy who said it was our best course of action given the circumstances?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:06 am to
I guess you don't understand tongue in cheek comments. I'll keep it simple from here on out for you.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:06 am to
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just find it funny that the normal trump crew has completely disregarded what he's actually said and done over the last two months. He has taken this mostly seriously starting in late february and Trump himself has stated that shutting down was the correct choice. I just find it comical that the people melting over shutting down will happily vote for the guy who clearly and unequivocally said it was the right thing to do.

If you think that it was the wrong course of action and has destroyed our economy, why support the guy who said it was our best course of action given the circumstances?


This is how you talk out of both sides of your arse. Trump has been amazing. Governors...?

Not so much.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:07 am to
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So how many would you think is a fair addition to the death total? We're at over 35k lab confirmed deaths in the US.


It was in its infancy in January maybe a handful of deaths again as the majority are asymptomatic, or minimally symptomatic with little to no surveillance being done. Things take a while to spread and take hold, but it doesnt mean it starts at the first death we record, its obviously well before then.

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Can you link the last time there were 35k lab confirmed influenza deaths in a single 30 day period?

Now you’re getting somewhere. But my point has always been influenza is much more significantly mitigated due to existing surveillance, treatment, awareness, and prevention in place. Even with these measures in place for influenza which significantly decrease mortality, severity, and prevalence...new estimates are suggesting COVID will be roughly as fatal as a mean flu season with only measures in place to slow incidence.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:08 am to
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This is how you talk out of both sides of your arse. Trump has been amazing. Governors...?


What?


Almost every governor has followed his lead throughout this whole thing. The JBE melters refuse to believe he has basically been in lockstep with the fed gov's recommendations since the beginning.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:13 am to
This fricking gotcha shite is getting old.

Politics makes people retarded. I get it. Trump has made some good moves and some bad moves throughout this ordeal.

Keep posting your jokes in every covid thread. We all dig it.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:14 am to
It’s really consuming his life.

In. Every. Thread.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:14 am to
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This is bullshite. It’s been around a lot longer.


Your feelings about how long it’s been here unknown because “it’s so minor” doesn’t change the fact from that in the start of April there were 5k dead and now it’s at 39k.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 12:18 am
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:17 am to
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Considering treatment is supportive, the treatment would have been the same. Week 1 or 24 doesnt impact how much COVID will Wreck me.


Doctors I’ve spoken to that are having to deal with this would disagree with this
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:18 am to
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a mean flu season with only measures in place to slow incidence.


No.


The CDC estimates that the flu causes between 12k and 61k deaths per year over the last decade. So 61k would be the TOP range of their estimate.


The IHME model estimates that the MEDIAN for anticipated COVID deaths at ~60k deaths with the assumption that current social distancing assumed until infections minimized and containment implemented. Their TOP range would be 140k.

If we're comparing median to median, it's 60k for Covid and 25k for the flu. And again, the whole premise of this thread is that "well this thing isn't any worse than a bad flu season, THUS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE MEASURES WE HAVE.

You're arguing that this will likely be as bad as a bad flu season WITH the measures implemented. People like OP are arguing that this will be as bad as a bad flu season with the measures implemented as a reason for why the measures SHOULDN'T have been implemented.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:20 am to
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Your feelings about how long it’s been here unknown because “it’s so minor” doesn’t change the fact from that in the start of April there were 5k dead and now it’s at 39k.


Sure it does. My denominator is bigger than yours. Just like my cock.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:21 am to
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Doctors I’ve spoken to that are having to deal with this would disagree with this


Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:22 am to
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Doctors I’ve spoken to that are having to deal with this would disagree with this

Well that settles it for me
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:24 am to
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Considering treatment is supportive, the treatment would have been the same. Week 1 or 24 doesnt impact how much COVID will Wreck me.


Nice dodge.

It's a simple question. IF you were hospitalized with COVID, would you prefer to have been hospitalized in week 1 or in week 24?
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 12:25 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:35 am to
You cant read. I keep saying a mean flu season. So 40-60k

For the bajillionth time I’m not saying we shouldn’t social distance, or that it isnt an extreme measure...i am saying vaccinations for influenza have a more significant impact than ‘extreme’ COVID measures. . 6 million flu infections prevented with 60% decrease of the infected needing ICU if we see 40-60k deaths after 60% reduction in ICU requirements COVID is similar And just might match up to a mean flu severity wise.


ETA - 2017-18 season Flu vaccines prevent ~ 6.2 million flu infections. We Are at like 2.25 million total COVID cases.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 12:42 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 12:47 am to
We knew all along the Chinese Flu would miraculously heal itself Nov 4th.
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