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re: So a vaccine by the end of this year/early 2021

Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:01 pm to
Hopefully one hits soon. I am tired of my wife going out of town to work China flu assignments. But that travel RN pay for an ICU RN is nice.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
28101 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:06 pm to
Vaccine November 4th
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:06 pm to
Why not use the same vaccine used for the previous strains of Corona.........oh wait!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:07 pm to
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How to distribute this extremely expensive and rare brand new vaccine with unknown Long term effects?


Wouldn't any adverse effects show up immediately?

Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51984 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:08 pm to
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which is going to be the hotter debate? masks or vaccine?

I'm going with vaccine

I'll be interested to see if any states or government entities try to mandate vaccinations. That will really piss the anti-mask side off.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13214 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:11 pm to
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Why not use the same vaccine used for the previous strains of Corona.........oh wait!



One of the viruses that cause the common cold is a coronavirus
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53627 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:12 pm to
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You can be sure I won't be getting one that early. I'll let about 100 million others be guinea pigs for a few years before I take the vaccine that was rushed out faster than any other in modern medical histo


Ummmmm. If you have concerns, it should be directed at the vaccine method type. Not speed.


Last years flu shot? Strains were identified in late March to crash develop for availability before fall of the same year.

Method they are using is actually faster than that, but more time is going to testing than typical.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53627 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:14 pm to
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Why not use the same vaccine used for the previous strains of Corona.........oh wait!


Because if even if there was something, it wouldn’t apply to this virus.
Posted by Breesus
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69549 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:15 pm to
No chance a take a speed rushed untested politically motivated vaccine in the first round of trials for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:16 pm to
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Last years flu shot? Strains were identified in late March to crash develop for availability before fall of the same year


What do you think triggered COVID? The new vaccines activated dormant Covid cells in conjunction with the strengthening of the virus through 5G roll out.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15932 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:16 pm to
vaccine gets released right after the election if biden wins i bet
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:17 pm to
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I'm going with vaccine


Much hotter debate.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer (all kids, my wife, and I are all up to date) but I will not take the first iteration of a rushed vaccine forced into mass production.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:18 pm to
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I'll let about 100 million others be guinea pigs for a few years before I take the vaccine that was rushed out faster than any other in modern medical history.


By a good margin as well.

I'm not a huge covid 19 conspiracy theorist, but having a working vaccine for a less than a year old cornoavirus (no successful vaccine has ever been produced in history) is a huge red flag.

It's gets nutty when you see who's funding it or involved.

Regardless of the reality of the situation, it smells like shite and someone is about to make a huge, massive amount of money

Not to mention they are rushing trials.

frick that vaccine
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46805 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:19 pm to
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I’m not an anti-vaxxer (all kids, my wife, and I are all up to date) but I will not take the first iteration of a rushed vaccine forced into mass production.



Just wait until employers mandate it for keeping your job.

Because that will happen.
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42808 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:20 pm to
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We just need to flatten the curve. We promise. That's it. We totally won't move the goalposts after that.


I love how those of us that called this from the beginning were laughed at as fear-mongering tin foil hate wearing conspiracy theorist
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
3854 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:37 pm to
It used to be the MMR shot for kids to start school. Better add a C to that now !
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
82518 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:43 pm to
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Last years flu shot? Strains were identified in late March to crash develop for availability before fall of the same year.


Difference there is they have well established methods for producing it. They just need to see what strain.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16969 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:54 pm to
Guaranteed to make you sterile
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53627 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 6:02 pm to
Right. Which is what I said. Speed isn’t the issue here. It’s actually taking longer than the norm.

Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3181 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 6:47 pm to
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no successful vaccine has ever been produced in histor


There are veterinary coronavirus vaccines.

This vaccine builds off 10 years of Sars vaccine research which was a coronavirus. The research has not progressed to human trials because of a lack of need.

The Moderna and Oxford vaccines have proven to be safe and effective in peer reviewed studies. I don't know anyone with an MD saying they won't take it once it is approved, but people with Music, buisness, and education degrees are the real experts.

This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 6:53 pm
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