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re: Snow on the ground in all 50 states, climate change is being downgraded
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:12 pm to colorchangintiger
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:12 pm to colorchangintiger
All research done by people dependent on outcome of research to supply income and done on models.
Intercepted emails + admitted changing factors after the fact backs me up on this.
Intercepted emails + admitted changing factors after the fact backs me up on this.
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:26 pm to Salmon
quote:Fake information.
the type of increases we have seen in the last 100.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:30 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
quote:I've been around for 70 years.
the erratic weather is just proof of it
It's no more erratic now than when I was a kid.
Millenials can be fooled by this but I cannot.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:33 pm to Salmon
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Funny how everyone is going ignore the fact that they also raised the lower range as well as lowering the higher range.
Well yeah, usually when you narrow a range it comes from both ends
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:41 pm to Redbone
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:43 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
Mother Nature is going to Mother Nature, you cannot stop it.
That's what I've been saying the entire thread. You've argued against it all day.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:07 pm to DarthRebel
Let's see...
Believe a vast majority of the scientific community...
Or believe a political smear campaign, started during a presidential race involving a family who aquired their wealth through the Oil and Gas industry...
Ever think maybe they were just trying to keep you buying gas?
Logic... Hmm.
Believe a vast majority of the scientific community...
Or believe a political smear campaign, started during a presidential race involving a family who aquired their wealth through the Oil and Gas industry...
Ever think maybe they were just trying to keep you buying gas?
Logic... Hmm.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:24 pm to redstick13
It isn't so hard to show that humans are the cause. The global concentration of CO2 has been rising since the industrial revolution. The increase in CO2 has been shown to contain old carbon, i.e. carbon that is old enough that it is depleted of its Carbon 14. That means the rise in CO2 is from burning fossil fuels.
There is good reason to conclude that rising CO2 levels are tied to temperature rise.
If we wanted to terraform Mars, to make warmer, we know what we would do. We would pump the atmosphere full of CO2 or other greenhouse gases. We've been doing it to the Earth uncontrolled for decades.
There is good reason to conclude that rising CO2 levels are tied to temperature rise.
If we wanted to terraform Mars, to make warmer, we know what we would do. We would pump the atmosphere full of CO2 or other greenhouse gases. We've been doing it to the Earth uncontrolled for decades.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:48 pm to slackster
quote:
That's what I've been saying the entire thread. You've argued against it all day.
You made me go back through this thread and that is not a true statement.
If we agree with this -
quote:
Mother Nature is going to Mother Nature, you cannot stop it.
Then we were on the same page.
We probably differ on some historical parts/minor details
To simplify for others
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:01 pm to DarthRebel
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You also cannot deny, science is wrong more than right. That is key part of science.
What does this even mean? Science isn’t one person, one thing. Science is the scientific method which you use to test a hypothesis. Nothing more or less. The hypothesis may be wrong or right, but that doesn’t make science wrong.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:05 pm to Masterag
quote:
Masterag
Don't pop in at the end and be a pain.
The statement stands and is factually correct. Nobody cares about your semantics.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:18 pm to DarthRebel
All I know is that I had enough of this dam cold. Way back in the 1960's, we had spells of this crap and then again in the 1980's. 
I'm sure we are screwing up the climate. For my part, I plant trees and I even let 75 ac of open land go back to the wild.
What the hell are you young people doing?
I'm sure we are screwing up the climate. For my part, I plant trees and I even let 75 ac of open land go back to the wild. What the hell are you young people doing?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:23 pm to junior
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Even a 1.5 C increase will have consequences. A 3.5 (rise), could pull at the fabric of civilisation.
Lost all credibility.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:31 pm to Kimist
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CO2 has been shown to contain old carbon, i.e. carbon that is old enough that it is depleted of its Carbon 14. That means the rise in CO2 is from burning fossil fuels.
Wouldn't volcano's meet this criteria?
How do we know the quantity of methane releases around the world?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:35 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
We probably differ on some historical parts/minor details
You sound like you don't think the global warming/sea level rise is a real thing. I question how much impact humans have, but I don't question the current, broad warming trend.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:38 pm to Pintail
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Lost all credibility.
, just to be clear, you realize this is the common way to spell it in the UK? 
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:50 pm to DarthRebel
No
shite
shite
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:02 pm to DarthRebel
Perhaps the current interventions are working?
ETA: or those chemtrails are working
ETA: or those chemtrails are working
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:06 pm to SamuelClemens
Whatever happened to Yoga Girl?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:15 pm to loogaroo
LINK
See article above.
Volcanoes would emit old carbon. But they account for only about 1% of annual CO2 emissions. Also, volcanic eruptions didn't just start spiking at the beginning of the industrial revolution, did they?
As for methane, it is monitored in the atmosphere and in ice cores, etc. One real fear is that because methane has a much more potent greenhouse effect than CO2, the melting of permafrost could cause the release of methane from decomposing organic material and could accelerate warming.
See article above.
Volcanoes would emit old carbon. But they account for only about 1% of annual CO2 emissions. Also, volcanic eruptions didn't just start spiking at the beginning of the industrial revolution, did they?
As for methane, it is monitored in the atmosphere and in ice cores, etc. One real fear is that because methane has a much more potent greenhouse effect than CO2, the melting of permafrost could cause the release of methane from decomposing organic material and could accelerate warming.
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