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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:49 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:49 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I'm still not convinced homeboy's life was in imminent danger. Smith can commit 10 minor hit and runs and scream at the top of his lungs that he had 10 guns. That doesn't endanger Hayes's life. Hayes cannot shoot and kill Smith for that.
one of the witness videos claims Smith announced first he had a gun, not Hayes.
IMO.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:49 pm to shel311
quote:
Smith was trying to defend himself from a dude who approached his car with a gun, no?
Who reported this? As in, Smith knowing that Hayes had a gun when he walked over. A witness said that Smith announced he had a gun first.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:50 pm to Winkface
quote:IMO, if someone tells you they have a gun and reaches for one in a verbal confrontation, you are in imminent danger. To say you arent is completely asinine.
I'm still not convinced homeboy's life was in imminent danger. Smith can commit 10 minor hit and runs and scream at the top of his lungs that he had 10 guns. That doesn't endanger Hayes's life. Hayes cannot shoot and kill Smith for that.
IMO.
Now, if you threatned first, you cant use self defense. However, you were def in imminent danger
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:51 pm to Winkface
quote:
I'm still not convinced homeboy's life was in imminent danger. Smith can commit 10 minor hit and runs and scream at the top of his lungs that he had 10 guns.
Well it depends on if Smith was reaching for a weapon.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:52 pm to lsupride87
In New Orleans especially
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:52 pm to Red Stick Tigress
quote:
quote: I am curious to know if all the shots fired were from one gun. The police news conference stated that all the casings matched the gun that's now in evidence.
JW- did they ever say what caliber the gun was?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Something we may never get an answer to.
Well it depends on if Smith was reaching for a weapon.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:53 pm to Mr. Hangover
Sean Payton and drew say it was a .45
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:53 pm to Winkface
IMO, if someone is acting reckless and says they have a gun then proceeds to reach for something, you would be crazy to not think your life is in danger.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:53 pm to Mr. Hangover
And FWIW I find it very hilarious that people are on here arguing like they know anything about what actually happened... Same shite as usual, just let ALL the facts come out then start debating
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:55 pm to Winkface
True. The only people who truly know are either dead, or their credibility is questionable because they are interested parties (Hayes and Smith's wife).
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:55 pm to Mr. Hangover
We know the hit and run part
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Gotcha.
one of the witness videos claims Smith announced first he had a gun, not Hayes.
I've been way out of the loop today, it seems.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:59 pm to arseinclarse
quote:
Shouldn't the police do an investigation before they make an arrest?
He's talking about the police findings in reference to a trial, yes? Being arrested and charged doesn't make one guilty
dont be obtuse like your baw, baw
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:00 pm to Winkface
Is it clear that the witness identified which person said he had a gun first?
How did he know?
Is it possible Hayes said, "I have a gun", and Will said, " I have one too, and then unloaded on him?
Who said they wanted fight?
So many questions I have.
How did he know?
Is it possible Hayes said, "I have a gun", and Will said, " I have one too, and then unloaded on him?
Who said they wanted fight?
So many questions I have.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:07 pm to Winkface
quote:
I'm still not convinced homeboy's life was in imminent danger. Smith can commit 10 minor hit and runs and scream at the top of his lungs that he had 10 guns. That doesn't endanger Hayes's life. Hayes cannot shoot and kill Smith for that.
no one really knows yet. But if he made it known he had a gun and was reaching for it, it changes everything.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
Were you at the Half Moon?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:13 pm to southernelite
the witness described the exchange
Smith: get out of here, I have a gun
Hayes: frick that, I got one too.
I only assume Hayes was out of his car by that point. I dont know if Smith was, yet. But reports are that his door was open, feet on the ground, torso slumped over his front seat
Smith: get out of here, I have a gun
Hayes: frick that, I got one too.
I only assume Hayes was out of his car by that point. I dont know if Smith was, yet. But reports are that his door was open, feet on the ground, torso slumped over his front seat
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:14 pm to Lester Earl
Self defense is gonna be a hard sell, he approached smith with a concealed weapon
Or was he waving it around
Or was he waving it around
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:16 pm to djangochained
quote:
he approached smith with a concealed weapon
How do you know he wasn't open carrying? He owns a tow company. I'm sure he usually open carries.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 3:17 pm
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