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re: Small Engine Mechanics of the OT

Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:18 am to
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:18 am to
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Ok, so I put a couple drops of gas in the chamber.
should really try some starter fluid. If it starts to crank or does crank, you want to be able to spray a little more. or consider soaking or adding some gas to the air filter.

I'd also remove spark plug and start with it clean, unflooded. As said, make sure it's sparking.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:27 am to
Does this have the feature where you can take it out of gear and leave it running while you walk away?

If so, the mechanism that allows that could be fricked up, not allowing you to start it while it thinks it is in gear.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:56 am to
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Ok, so I put a couple drops of gas in the chamber. The most I could get it to do was give a little backfire. A couple times trying to start there was a build up of pressure and it wouldn’t pull. Sounds like timing, right?


If you cannot pull the cord because of pressure there is too much fuel or fuel/oil mixture in the combustion chamber.

I had a similar problem after I "stood" my snapper riding mower to sharpen the blade. The carburetor float had not stopped the gas from flooding the compression chamber. Pulled the spark plug, pulled the cord a few times and gas poured out. I also had gas in my oil reservoir. Rebuilt carburetor.

An aside. If your lawnmower runs for a while before stopping, start it with the gas cap off. If the vent is clogged, it creates a vacuum lock.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:59 am to
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Ok, so I put a couple drops of gas in the chamber.


It would probably take a little more than that, especially if it isn't getting any gas through the carb.

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The most I could get it to do was give a little backfire.


Which can be a timing thing, or the simple fact that you are pouring gas in the carb, so there is more fuel than is burned in one cycle, so it pops through the exhaust stroke as well.

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A couple times trying to start there was a build up of pressure and it wouldn’t pull. Sounds like timing, right?


That certainly does. I wouldn't expect a person to be able to get enough compression out of a little lawnmower engine for this to happen. Does the engine ever try to push air back through the carb? If so, the valves are probably not opening and closing correctly in relation to crank or piston position, so yes, timing. Not timing regarding spark, but valve timing.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:05 pm to
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A couple times trying to start there was a build up of pressure and it wouldn’t pull. Pull the spark plug and make sure the engine is turning freely.
This, your pressure build up might be due to hydrolock. Bad timing doesn't make sense if it ran good/smooth for 8-10 seconds.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:12 am to
Updated
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:15 am to
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ETA: 7/16


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Piston it pumping, but the lawnmower is not drawing a spark. Brand new spark plug.


Bad wire or kill switch engaged.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:16 am to
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Kill switch engaged


I’m not sure there is a kill switch.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76103 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:19 am to
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I’m not sure there is a kill switch.
There would certainly be a safety feature that kills the spark on a certain angle, maybe when you had it flipped over doing all this work on it, could have been triggered and now is having trouble untriggering itself.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:23 am to
I take it back. Wife just want pulling hard enough (bazinga!!). I pulled and it is drawing spark. I smell fuel. No fire.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:24 am to
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Wife just want pulling hard enough


Ain’t that the truth.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:27 am to
I put a couple drops of gas in the chamber and it backfired once and didn’t fire. It has to be something simple to fix this...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76103 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:33 am to
Put gas back in the tank, prime the carb, and try to start it like normal.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:33 am to
Why in the frick are you doing all this over a push mower?

Once you realized you bent the crankshaft you should have thrown it in the dumpster and got another one.

Stop attempting to win the Darwin award by putting gas in the chamber. Use starting fluid.

JFC
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:34 am to
Are you using non ethanol fuel?
Posted by cajuncarguy
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:37 am to
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Small Engine Mechanics of the OT


???
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:43 am to
I hear you, dude. It’s a good mower (walk-behind) and I thought I could fix it. I still think I can, but I have a spare push mower in the meantime.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:46 am to
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I put a couple drops of gas in the chamber and it backfired once and didn’t fire. It has to be something simple to fix this...


So we're back to it running for 8-10 seconds when you put it together. If it is backfiring, it is firing. Did you see the timing marks on the cam when you put it back together?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:56 am to
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I purchased a brand new crankshaft online and have spent the past two days installing it.


God damn son




Take off your carb, soak it in carb cleaner. Use a small object to clean out the jets, then blow it out.. put that sum bitch back on and cut your shite
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:06 pm to
WHen I put the crank in, I made sure to alight the rod on the new crank exactly where the old was. Now, could I have screwed that up? Absolutely.
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