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re: Sleep restriction for insomnia
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:32 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:32 pm to RandySavage
Been dealing with this most of my life.
Melatonin combined with benadryl help me if I take it right when I'm going to bed.
Lay off the caffeine completely.
Exercise.
Asking OP .... when you wake up, is it too quiet for you and that's why you can't go back to sleep?
Are you dreaming when you wake up at 3AM?
I'll wait for your answer.
Melatonin combined with benadryl help me if I take it right when I'm going to bed.
Lay off the caffeine completely.
Exercise.
Asking OP .... when you wake up, is it too quiet for you and that's why you can't go back to sleep?
Are you dreaming when you wake up at 3AM?
I'll wait for your answer.
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:34 pm to RandySavage
maybe go see a sleep specialist just an idea
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:42 pm to Cracker
Insomnia Coach is a smartphone app, free, actually published by the VA. If you use the sleep diary, it will coach you thru the sleep restriction. It also adds a lot of other education and cues. Good luck.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:51 pm to fallguy_1978
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guess a lot of people have quirks to get to sleep
Well when I went to my GP he did the usual 'just write down what is on your mind' and I asked if he thought that I was thinking about work or weekend projects. He said yes.
After about 15 words of what kept me up the night before he held up his hands and said that this was beyond his expertise. He did give me something to try and hold me over until I got to see my sleep doctor.
She still would like me not to watch TV before bed and I totally understand it but I don't see me trying any time soon.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:35 pm to RandySavage
Valerian Root and melatonin.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:39 pm to RandySavage
Benadryl and other sleep aids can increase risk of dementia if you are middle aged...
Read up on low dose Doxipin. (prescrip) Its actually an anti-anxiety med that can help with sleep.
If I have a busy day the next day, or have had alcohol (hangxiety) it can help. Its not addictive, and has few side effects.
Sleep deprivation is misery.
Read up on low dose Doxipin. (prescrip) Its actually an anti-anxiety med that can help with sleep.
If I have a busy day the next day, or have had alcohol (hangxiety) it can help. Its not addictive, and has few side effects.
Sleep deprivation is misery.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:39 pm to sleepytime
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Get bloodwork done and go see a sleep Dr if needed. Low blood sugar and low oxygen levels can jolt you awake and it's hard to go back to sleep. Once the big stuff is ruled out, try out some meds. If you drink, there's a dopamine rebound that can wake you up once the alcohol wears off.
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sleepytime
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:41 pm to RandySavage
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Currently in a pattern of waking up around 330 or 4
Sounds like a perfect start to the day.
What time do to go to bed?
9->4 = 7hrs
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:43 pm to Sao
Never heard of this I want to say it’s bs but I’m going to google it and then try it lmfao
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:17 pm to RandySavage
I suffer from sleep disorder the past 2 years and it really sucks. A bad night with 3-4 hours sleep will make your new day miserable. And it probably gets worse with age (I'm 51).
I prob have some type of apnea problem. Went to the doctor last year and I was diagnosed with a term that I cannot remember but basically is one of my nostrils is not positioned normally and does not let air through as easily as the other nostril. They recommended nose surgery and I am not going through that, so I declined.
After some nights tossing and turning for about 3 hours, one thing that helped me was to place an air purifier indirectly to my face, about 7 feet away. I would fall asleep fairly quick within 15 minutes.
I prob have some type of apnea problem. Went to the doctor last year and I was diagnosed with a term that I cannot remember but basically is one of my nostrils is not positioned normally and does not let air through as easily as the other nostril. They recommended nose surgery and I am not going through that, so I declined.
After some nights tossing and turning for about 3 hours, one thing that helped me was to place an air purifier indirectly to my face, about 7 feet away. I would fall asleep fairly quick within 15 minutes.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:55 pm to RandySavage
I wake up about 3 or 4 AM. I used to have a hard time getting back to sleep because I would just start thinking about everything. Now I listen to a podcast. Even if it’s interesting, I’m only thinking about one thing and not several. It works even better if I have heard that podcast before or if it’s something I don’t care about. It knocks me right out. Another thing that helps me is a cheap sleep mask to put over my eyes.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:01 pm to RandySavage
Go to a sleep specialist. I was sleeping 4-6 hours per night on and off for 1.5 years and got fed up and went to the doctor. Now I consistently sleep 7-8 hours with rare relapses.
I can’t recommend any drug, IMO. The only thing that fixed it for me was dealing with my anxiety. After you become dependent on the drugs it’s game over.
I can’t recommend any drug, IMO. The only thing that fixed it for me was dealing with my anxiety. After you become dependent on the drugs it’s game over.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:04 pm to RandySavage
If you're middle aged or older, stay away from Benadryl and other antihistamines unless you want to exacerbate prostate issues.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:10 pm to RandySavage
My dad has suffered from insomnia, forever.
What I tell anyone who asks, and what works for him is to go camping. Spending at least three nights every few months helps reset his internal clock.
What I tell anyone who asks, and what works for him is to go camping. Spending at least three nights every few months helps reset his internal clock.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:14 pm to RandySavage
I’ve been told I have revenge bedtime procrastination
The description makes sense, the name could’ve been a little less on the nose
The description makes sense, the name could’ve been a little less on the nose
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:55 am to Longhorn Actual
WTF is it with the benadryl prostate and dementia warnings?
I call BS. I've been taking it for decades.
It's only 0155 hrs here and I'm having no issues sleeping and my arse walnut only hurts from time to time and is only slightly enlarged .... lemon sized max.
I call BS. I've been taking it for decades.
It's only 0155 hrs here and I'm having no issues sleeping and my arse walnut only hurts from time to time and is only slightly enlarged .... lemon sized max.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:42 am to CatfishJohn
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I can take 4x the recommended dosage of Melatonin and not feel a thing and I don't have chronic insomnia. Melatonin is for children.
I just recently swapped from taking the 10mg melatonin to a .333mg fast dissolve tablet. I always fell asleep with the 10, but it would wake me up after 3 hours. I don’t wake up with the .333mg and have similar time falling asleep.
It’s a hormone, not a drug. So there can be negative effects of taking too much.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:55 am to Sao
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You'll think this is dumb, but try something I discovered. I stumbled upon the practice of forcing REM sleep chemical release (found while doing random sleep aid Googles). Works pretty amazingly for me.
How To? Do your normal bedtime routine but spend the final 20-30 minutes prior to curling up without TV or electronics. Let the brain rest. Then, as you turn out the lights and tuck in, close your eyes. Relax.
When situated, spend the next 3 or so minutes rolling your eyeballs in a circle for 10 or so orbits. Stop. Now, focus on moving eyeballs completely up, then down and repeat 10 or 20 times. Stop. Go back to eye rolling. Repeat for as long as you can... circles then up downs.
Doing this tricks the brain into thinking you're in REM and chemicals naturally release ( DMT/others). Do this nightly. Read about it online if you like as it's rather fascinating. Have been doing it for 5 or so years and wish I had known how to many many years ago. I've always been a sporadic sleeper like you, until now. It sucks. Sincere GL to you.
I used to wonder why they made you do these eye exercises before a sleep apnea study. This would explain that.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 1:57 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:51 am to scrooster
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WTF is it with the benadryl prostate and dementia warnings?
It doesn't directly affect the prostate. It causes the muscles in the pelvic floor to tighten, which exacerbates existing prostate issues. If you have no prostate issues, then there's nothing to exacerbate.
Most guys have BPH related issues, to varying degrees, at some point in life.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:27 am to RandySavage
trazadone and sleep aide from costco every night for me. Works great and no hangover feeling in the morning. zzzzzz
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