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re: Six West Point football players OD on spring break

Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:21 am to
Posted by McVick
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:21 am to
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After using the drug, at least two cadets went immediately into cardiac arrest. Two students who hadn’t taken the drug tried to give their friend mouth-to-mouth and received enough fentanyl that way to suffer overdoses themselves.


I find this part hard to believe. To my knowledge an opioid overdose from fentanyl doesn't happen from being in direct contact with another person or even the drug itself.

Edit: I haven't changed anything from above will clarify my statement that an overdose via direct skin contact from fentanyl is extremely unlikely, unlike inhalation or injection.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 9:08 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:29 am to
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Why in the frick would a drug dealer lace his stash with something deadly? You’re not getting repeat customers if you keep fricking killing them. WTF? Are these people drug dealers or serial killers?


Dumbass drug dealers get lazy and use the same equipment while cutting and weighing out bags.

I’m sure there’s a few psychos out there but the vast majority of drug dealers aren’t knowingly mixing coke and fent to sell to casual users.
Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:45 am to
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Someone explain this to me like I’m 5. Why in the frick would a drug dealer lace his stash with something deadly? You’re not getting repeat customers if you keep fricking killing them. WTF? Are these people drug dealers or serial killers?


Lol. You really think drug dealers are good people trying to make an honest living? No they are pieces of shite. They use fentanyl because its more potent and they can lace their shitty products to give the same effects that their shitty drugs won't give because you know what they aren't? They aren't chemist?

fricking druggies are the dumbest people.

ETA: not really directed at SEZ. Just a rant.

Dumbasses buy drugs from the shadiest people but are scared of their shadows while walking down a street.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:55 am to
Np but it still doesn’t make any sense because the effects of cocaine and the effects of fentanyl are totally different. Upper vs downer. Completely cannot figure out why they’d go out of their way to “cut” one with the other.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29875 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:57 am to
I'm so glad I'm not a kid these days. The worst we ever had to worry about was getting mda instead of mdma.

Drugs have won the war on drugs, yet our government keeps pointlessly fighting. Just awful.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:57 am to
Fentanyl is cheaper and way more addictive.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:58 am to
Fentanyl is overcoming Covid as the worst Chinese biological import.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:59 am to
This is China's version of the opium war but against us
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:03 am to
That doesn’t mean it makes sense to mix it with coke

It’s a game of profit margins, mixing two drugs together to sell as one of them makes no sense even if one is a little cheaper. Especially if you’re selling to tourists

You would be correct when it comes to pressing fake pills though. A lot of the serious users these days are just buying fentanyl itself.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 7:04 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:06 am to
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Fentanyl in Coke? Who would cut coke with a downer?

This fentynyl shite is getting into everything.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 7:15 am
Posted by lepdagod
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:09 am to
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Lol. You really think drug dealers are good people trying to make an honest living? No they are pieces of shite. They use fentanyl because its more potent and they can lace their shitty products to give the same effects that their shitty drugs won't give because you know what they aren't? They aren't chemist?


Homie your local drug dealer ain’t lacing shite… Mexicans ain’t neither… them bad packs coming through the Asians… just like the MOJO(synthetic marijuana)…
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:09 am to
I remember around 2003 fantasy patches were a thing. You would wear them or eat the gel inside of them. Never remember anyone overdosing from them.
But they were like percentage of microgram doses.

Looks like fentanyl can just straight up kill anyone
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:10 am to
Some other upper like perhaps methamphetamine, crushed adderal or sadly b12 powder is done to “bulk” up the seller’s product in order to simply have more to sell. Those are all “uppers”.

Cutting coke with fentanyl is like mixing adderal with a percocet pain killer. An upper with a downer. Hell I dunno. It could be the Chinese and Mexicans teaming up to wreak random havoc.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:11 am to
With cocIne it makes sense no sense. With heroin.... certain junkies will hear that someone overdosed and know that dealer has strong smack. Overdoses don't hurt heroin dealers. Often why heroin dealers often catch murder charges.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 7:12 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:12 am to
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Looks like fentanyl can just straight up kill anyone

Yeah it’s crazy because I presume fentanyl is actually used in a clinical setting, but at the same time it could cause an OD any moment apparently. Maybe it mostly “special” Chinese fentanyl that packs the deadliest punch.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:16 am to
With coke is cut and stepped on by every level of distribution. The end dealer will often re-rock powder to make it look uncut, but your not getting fishcale anymore.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:17 am to
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Homie your local drug dealer ain’t lacing shite… Mexicans ain’t neither… them bad packs coming through the Asians… just like the MOJO(synthetic marijuana)…


No shite. These aren't chemists mixing it.

Y'all are trying to make sense of irrational people.

Dealers and suppliers don't give a shite about their customers. Cheaper products sold at the same price equals more profit. They can understand that part.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36736 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:19 am to
No Peruvian flake at the end product usually, in the college scene anyway. More like a little coke and some baby laxative and bam you’re on the commode most of the night. Lol
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59237 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:31 am to
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Dealers and suppliers don't give a shite about their customers. Cheaper products sold at the same price equals more profit. They can understand that part.



Fentanyl is cheaper because of how far a little gets you. A gram of it goes for more than a gram of coke. Again, it’s not a cheaper product being used as a filler for selling cocaine. It’s morons that are careless with both for sale that are killing people.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 7:33 am
Posted by JFT96
Member since Dec 2021
672 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:32 am to
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quote:
fentanyl



Thanks China Joe.


Actually fentanyl started getting bad when Trump was in office. It really ramped up around 2017-2018
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