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re: Should you be able to buy Lobster and Steak with Food Stamps?

Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:46 am to
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bowl of gruel


I used to eat cream of wheat as a kid...pretty much the same thing
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:47 am to
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But I think local stuff like seafood, meat, etc. should be fine as well as eggs, milk, wheat pasta, beans, fruit, vegetables, etc.


If I remember correctly (worked at a grocery store one summer in high school) WIC in Louisiana has restrictions on what you can buy that seemed to work. For instance, you couldn't buy the name brand cheese, but could get the cheaper store brand. I remember having to put back flats of kool-aid drinks, because they weren't covered under the program. Things like that. Seems like it's quite possible to have a program that provides the items necessary to sustain a family without giving the ability to "waste" money on junk food and such.

I know WIC is a smaller program, but it seemed to work.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:47 am to
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All of these controversies would disappear if we gave out FOOD instead of MONEY for food, and CLOTHES instead of MONEY for clothes, and MEDICINES instead of MONEY for medicines.
Exactly. That system would be cost effective and not hard to implement
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:47 am to
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I think they should do food stamps the way the do WIC. Give them a voucher that dictates exactly what they can purchase. It should consist of a protein like, grains and veggies. I don't want to hear all the b.s. about they have a right to choose for themselves. You have a right to choose for yourself when you are paying for it yourself.

frick that. Have you ever been in line behind someone using WIC? Now imagine 50 million people in line buying a shite load more stuff. Keep the card, just put more restrictions on what it can be used for. I really don't mind the steak and seafood but soda, energy drinks, and most junk food should be off limits.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:48 am to
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Why do you think folks come across our borders? For opportunity I would say. If you were take those things away would they continue to come here? I think not.



Because the USA is better in every way than the country they are coming from. It isn't that hard to understand.

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but it really is not that hard to fix.


We need to elect you for President
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:48 am to
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frick that. Have you ever been in line behind someone using WIC?
stop shopping at walmart
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:50 am to
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Because the USA is better in every way than the country they are coming from. It isn't that hard to understand.


so this is as good as it gets in your mind?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:50 am to
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stop shopping at walmart

I mostly shop at the on post commissary. shite, we just got our first Walmart a couple years ago.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:52 am to
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so this is as good as it gets in your mind?


how'd you infer that from what you quoted?
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:53 am to
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Because the USA is better in every way than the country they are coming from. It isn't that hard to understand.


Well no shite. But WHY? OPPORTUNITY. Why? Freedom to CHOOSE. Freedom to have input so you have a say in the output. When you have no input you deserve no voice.

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We need to elect you for President


No thanks. I am too smart, I couldn't take the pay cut, I am guided by moral principles that would not allow me to be elected.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:54 am
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21259 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:54 am to
Should only be able to buy essentials and then for meat choices hamburger, ham, turkey, hot dogs, and chicken.

No steak(unless it's sirloin), lobster, shrimp, chips, cola, chocolate, candy, sugar fruit drinks, pre cooked meals (deli food), and limit the amount to be spent on frozen food that needs to be fried.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:55 am to
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No thanks. I am too smart, I couldn't take the pay cut, I am guided by moral principles that would not allow me to be elected.


Too bad so many others think this selfishly, otherwise our problems would have been solved
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:57 am to
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Should only be able to buy essentials and then for meat choices hamburger, ham, turkey, hot dogs, and chicken.

No steak(unless it's sirloin), lobster, shrimp, chips, cola, chocolate, candy, sugar fruit drinks, pre cooked meals (deli food), and limit the amount to be spent on frozen food that needs to be fried.
I'm okay with them being able to choose steak, shrimp, scallops, lobster or whatever. I just want to cap the limit of junk food they get.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:01 am to
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Too bad so many others think this selfishly, otherwise our problems would have been solved


Does this sentence really make any sense?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:07 am to
I'd rather a government food bank/store with unbranded stables and basics. The voucher would completely cover the basics, per person, fresh fruits and vegetables, meat, rice, beans, pasta, canned goods.

No cookies, candy, luxury items, etc. No brand name cereal - nothing extravagant.

Don't like it or want something else? Get a job.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:16 am to
Works for me. It will hurt grocery chains though, but not suppliers. Maybe the government can buy from the chains instead of the suppliers so that everyone stays afloat.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:16 am to
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Beans and Gubment cheese... da don't needs no Lobusters and filas


But without the filets, what would you put the cheese on?

Nothing goes better with a brick of American cheese like a center cut filet, butterflied, well done but not burnt with some Heinz 57
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:16 am to
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Freedom to have input so you have a say in the output. When you have no input you deserve no voice.

which is why the democrats are against this. They are buying votes by siding with people who are inputting nothing into society.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:19 am to
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you have a percentage or are you "just taking your little sampling of life down there in Louisiana and attempting to say the abuse" is bad everywhere? You are doing the same thing as me, except I'm not demonizing your opinion.



If you could admit that your 1% comment was an arbitrary opinion than you wouldn't be getting as many replies.

You already mentioned 47M ppl are on food stamps. I'm not going to bother validating that figure, so let's assume it is accurate. That is like 10-15% of the entire country. There is no way to feasibly budget for that many people and circumstances. Let's forget what they are spending on, can we at least agree that some peoples benefit is probably greater than what they "need" ( at least in relative terms compared with other recipients)? With that level of volume, there needs to be proper controls in place to prevent abuse from occurring in the first place, because there is just no way to effectively police it after the fact.

Also,of course, poverty is a problem not just in the US but worldwide. But, I think it is also important to point out that there is a seemingly increasing amount of people that that are unsupportive of these programs, with a very real clash of classes brewing. Should we just ignore this problem that solving another problem is creating?

And just for perspective, LA has the highest percentage of any state budget from federal funds, which are for these programs, so it is very likely that the abuse is higher here than perhaps anywhere else.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89835 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:20 am to
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Nothing goes better with a brick of American cheese product like a center cut filet, butterflied, well done but not burnt with some Heinz 57


Fixed.
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