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re: Should we make the bar exam a whole lot harder? What else can be done?
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:30 pm to PearlJam
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:30 pm to PearlJam
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The more you weed out, the more expensive the rest of us become.
Good!
It might start to deter people from suing over their ice cream melting too fast. Our society is so litigious it is disgusting.
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Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:30 pm to Jcorye1
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Start putting in place rules like CPAs have for C-level positions?
Love it.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:43 pm to TheCaterpillar
You are assuming that bar exam performance parallels competency in practice, which it doesn't. I think something similar to medical residency would be the better option.
Prob the best option would be if LADB and ODC actually did their jobs. Could thin the herd real quick if they did.
Prob the best option would be if LADB and ODC actually did their jobs. Could thin the herd real quick if they did.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
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just feel like existing lawyers would want to rally together to make the bar exam much harder.
We (or most) don’t care. Pass and move on.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:49 pm to Demshoes
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California bar overall pass rate is less than 50% (all test takers regardless of how many times taken). Still tons of lawyers in Cali.
It was right above 50% when I took it in July (TN). What’s the scaled Multistate national average, 65%? That alone shows that it’s a pretty difficult test.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
it was harder in the past, but that was racist
Posted on 10/8/19 at 1:56 pm to DevilDagNS
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You are assuming that bar exam performance parallels competency in practice, which it doesn't
Couldn’t agree more. The bar exam is about dedication and persistence. If you simply put in the time, you’ll pass. The amount of information that you’re responsible for knowing is shocking. That said, if you’re able to take the time off and dedicate 6-8 weeks to it, most should pass.
That said, it’s absolutely nothing remotely like the practice of law. Way to go Board of Law Examiners!
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:02 pm to TheCaterpillar
LA has the allegedly second hardest bar exam behind California. Take it from someone who took it. It’s not about the bar being easy by ANY means.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:07 pm to TheCaterpillar
Make it an apprenticeship prior to being barred.
4 years of experience, then take the bar and get your license.
4 years of experience, then take the bar and get your license.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:07 pm to TheCaterpillar
The bar exam is hard enough, the key is to eliminating a law school. We have 4 law schools for a relatively small state, which is too many. We have only three medical schools (and two are really the same just in different parts of the state). One law school needs to go. Any guesses which one?
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:10 pm to ELVIS U
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The bar exam is hard enough, the key is to eliminating a law school. We have 4 law schools for a relatively small state, which is too many. We have only three medical schools (and two are really the same just in different parts of the state). One law school needs to go. Any guesses which one?
I'm thinking nationally.
I like the idea of 4 years of law school, a harder bar, and 3 years apprenticeship/residency required.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
When all of our needs and wants can be filled through automation, people will flock to bullshite jobs to justify their existence. And there's no more bullshite job in the world than being a lawyer, it's going to get much worse.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:14 pm to Demshoes
quote:Thats pussy shite
California bar overall pass rate is less than 50% (all test takers regardless of how many times taken). Still tons of lawyers in Cali.
Bar Exam pass rate for first time takers is 74.37%
CPA exam pass rate for first time takers is 21%
That is a little ridiculous considering
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:15 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Four years of law school
Outside of a bar class or two the third year is absolutely worthless.
The market is already correcting itself- law school admissions have been dropping for years now.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:17 pm to TheCaterpillar
Before we tackle the issue for dumb lawyers, let's tackle the bigger issue of Idiot doctors.
I mean our very own WeeWee practices medicine.
I mean our very own WeeWee practices medicine.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:19 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I'm thinking nationally.
I like the idea of 4 years of law school, a harder bar, and 3 years apprenticeship/residency required.
What would be the 4L curriculum? What subjects are the graduates missing? For 99% of law students, a 4L year would be a waste of time and money. If you haven't learned to write and think like a lawyer in 3 years a 4th won't matter.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:27 pm to Obtuse1
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What would be the 4L curriculum? What subjects are the graduates missing? For 99% of law students, a 4L year would be a waste of time and money. If you haven't learned to write and think like a lawyer in 3 years a 4th won't matter.
I'm just trying to weed out people
Ok, 3 years, bar, 3 years apprenticeship
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:28 pm to TheCaterpillar
Know a couple dudes that have failed it more than 3 times.
While an Asian Broad who is a non stop drunk with fake titties passed it on her 2nd time.
While an Asian Broad who is a non stop drunk with fake titties passed it on her 2nd time.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:34 pm to TheCaterpillar
How are shitty lawyers hurting you?
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:35 pm to TheCaterpillar
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TheCaterpillar
What do you do for a living? Curious if you want similar for your profession or trade?
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