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re: Should state colleges cap their tuition and fees?

Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by tom1987
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:19 pm to
The cost of attendance has gone through the roof at an alarming rate. It is virtually impossible for a kid to work his way through school.
My freshman tuition at Auburn in 1983 was $1,050 for the year. I will be paying $10,424 each for my two kids to attend Auburn this year. Add housing, books, fees, and food to that $21,000 bill and it will probably double.
In fact, tuition has doubled since 2004!
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10911 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:19 pm to
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No, no it is not.


If that is your stance then your state will be full of poor, illiterate people.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:20 pm to
Sounds like something Obama would do. No thanks.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:22 pm to
Considering that they're nonprofits, you're incorrect.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1709 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Thats exactly why I'm asking if they should be capped. State colleges are supposed to be te affordable option.


So you'd like me to pay for your education? I guess you'd also like me to pay more for my dinner so you can make $15 minimum wage while you wash the dishes!
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:22 pm to
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I will be paying $10,424 each for my two kids to attend Auburn this year.


FWIW 10k is cheap. 40k in total tuition for career training at a university level is quite the investment. My family owns trade schools with over 2500 total students and again thats a bargain in comparison
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:23 pm to
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If that is your stance then your state will be full of poor, illiterate people.


The reason I asked his age earlier was because I don't usually hear people born after 1980 exhibit the "too bad, so sad" attitude when it comes to the cost of higher education in today's world.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:24 pm to
The cost of tuition has always had a target of your first years salary. Your kid doesn't need to stay in a $1000/month condo, have a new car, etc. I lived next to campus, so I walked to school. I lived in a 70s apartment complex, which was $300/month. I worked at school, so they were mindful of my class time. He's an adult now. Pay his tuition, and let him come up with the rest. He'll thank you later when he can provide for himself.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:24 pm to
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Considering that they're nonprofits, you're incorrect.


so non profits are not businesses?

non profit is just how they allocate revenue and report on taxes, doent mean they dont try to essentially have profit and run as a business
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:25 pm to
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So you'd like me to pay for your education? I guess you'd also like me to pay more for my dinner so you can make $15 minimum wage while you wash the dishes!


You already do with taxes that support local public elementary and high schools. A public university is exactly that, public.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:26 pm to
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Your kid doesn't need to stay in a $1000/month condo


The cost of a dorm at Carolina is something like $750 a month when you divide it out. I wish it was only $300 a month.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:27 pm to
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The cost of tuition has always had a target of your first years salary. Your kid doesn't need to stay in a $1000/month condo, have a new car, etc. I lived next to campus, so I walked to school. I lived in a 70s apartment complex, which was $300/month. I worked at school, so they were mindful of my class time. He's an adult now. Pay his tuition, and let him come up with the rest. He'll thank you later when he can provide for himself.


reminds me of the argument against 60k trucks in comparison to the past. I dont remember trucks prior to the late 90's having 350+ HP, crew cabs, navigation, electric but scratchers, etc...
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:32 pm to
You get my point. My place was a shitty one bedroom apartment. My dad told me I was there to work, not play. If I failed out, I had to pay for it. I had an old Ford Ranger that I only used to drive home in once a month. This was all within the last 10 years. People who complain about the price of school are doing it wrong.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45352 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:32 pm to
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reasonably affordable access to higher education?


I disagree with this. This is why so many people can't find a job straight out of college, because a college education doesn't stand out anymore when you apply somewhere because everyone feels that they deserve to go to college when that isn't the case.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:34 pm to
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so non profits are not businesses?

non profit is just how they allocate revenue and report on taxes, doent mean they dont try to essentially have profit and run as a business


Those two guys are buffoons. It all makes sense as to why they are complaining.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:35 pm to
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deserve to go to college when that isn't the case.


This isn't about deserving to go to college. This is simply about the price of college.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:35 pm to
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People who complain about the price of school are doing it wrong.



Exactly, I by no means had an awesome living experience, I lived in about a 100 year old house in Waco with two of my best friends and I wouldn't have done it any other way. I dated a girl whose parents paid for her to live in a condo that was $1,400 a month. I pay half that right now and I have an actual career.

If you want to go to whatever school then work your arse off and get scholarships. I would have ended up at Texas Tech or Texas State had I not worked hard for my grades and test scores to receive a boat load of scholarships. It isn't easy and people shouldn't expect it to be.

College isn't something that's easy attain and it shouldn't be.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:35 pm to
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If you incur huge student loans and can not pay them....to bad, you made a bad investment. Personal Responsibility.



You didn't invest.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:36 pm to
The cost of a dorm at Carolina is something like $750 a month when you divide it out. I wish it was only $300 a month.

I am sure you can find housing in town that you can afford. It is not the job of the taxpayer to provide you housing. Then again, if you can not afford college, housing, etc...get a blue collar job and attend trade school. Perhaps the military is an option for you. Get paid to learn something.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6419 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:37 pm to
How can they do that with the state ravaging the appropriation? What needs to be Capped is TOPS. Not capped but eliminated or restricted to scholars and the needy.
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