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re: Should organ donation be "opt out" rather than "opt in"?
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:21 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:21 am to DavidTheGnome
No. People keep looking for ways to make it easier to harvest people's organs and it's never going to happen in the US. I had someone tell me I was selfish for not being an organ donor. I asked them to give me 50% of their income every week and they said no. So by their logic they are selfish as well.
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Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:27 am to DavidTheGnome
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No. It should be your choice as to what happens to your body after you die. Don't we already have enough dictated to us by the government?
It would still be your choice and nothing is being dictated.
Exactly. If you don't pay attention enough to opt out, then you don't truly give a shite anyway. That's on you.
Kind of shocked at how stupid many of these responses are.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:28 am to Henry Jones Jr
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I had someone tell me I was selfish for not being an organ donor. I asked them to give me 50% of their income every week and they said no. So by their logic they are selfish as well.
What
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:08 am to Funky Tide 8
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Exactly. If you don't pay attention enough to opt out, then you don't truly give a shite anyway. That's on you. Kind of shocked at how stupid many of these responses are.
You’re the one that sounds like a retard.
We don’t need to incentivize bad behavior by basically creating a business of harvesting organs. It would give doctors and businesses an incentive to NOT make a good faith effort to save your life when you are injured or ill.
It would also be a way to prey upon the ignorant and uninformed by seizing their organs when they die without them ever knowing that it would happen. That would be the whole point of changing to opt-out, correct? They would hope to get more organs from more uninformed people. That’s sleazy tactics.
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:13 am to cbree88
You incentivize bad behavior and creating a business of harvesting organs by keeping supplies low. Move to an opt out system and all the sudden supplies aren’t as low and the incentive to the doctors to kill you is less.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:17 am to DavidTheGnome
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You incentivize bad behavior and creating a business of harvesting organs by keeping supplies low. Move to an opt out system and all the sudden supplies aren’t as low and the incentive to the doctors to kill you is less.
Wrong
If you have less people that you can legally harvest organs from, there would be absolutely no incentive in most of the cases. You honestly don’t think that the corrupt doctors would be equally corrupt if they had an even larger supply to choose from??
You’re understating the impact of greed on human nature. There’s never enough. We always want more.
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 11:22 am
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:45 am to cbree88
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You honestly don’t think that the corrupt doctors would be equally corrupt if they had an even larger supply to choose from??
Yeah because the value of their good goes down. Scarcity creates the high prices of kickbacks or whatever you think these docs get. Do you economics baw?
Posted on 6/23/19 at 12:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
Yes. I’ve studied economics in college several times at the undergraduate and graduate level.
I don’t think it would play out like a perfect competition market in this scenario because of factors that interfere with it. If a doctor earns thousands of dollars from doing an organ replacement surgery, he’s going to try to have more of those, not fewer. Harvesting more organs from unsuspecting people would allow for that.
The value of this service will NOT go down if they harvest more organs, because this value is based on the expertise of the doctors who perform the surgical procedures, not the scarcity of the human organs.
I don’t think it would play out like a perfect competition market in this scenario because of factors that interfere with it. If a doctor earns thousands of dollars from doing an organ replacement surgery, he’s going to try to have more of those, not fewer. Harvesting more organs from unsuspecting people would allow for that.
The value of this service will NOT go down if they harvest more organs, because this value is based on the expertise of the doctors who perform the surgical procedures, not the scarcity of the human organs.
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/23/19 at 12:17 pm to cbree88
It’s pretty clear that the gnome is well beyond his depths when relating the economics with “doctor’s incentive to kill patients”. Moronic premise.
Doctors aren’t buying and selling these organs lmao. 2 Ibuprofens don’t cost like 20 bucks in the hospital because of supply and demand. So dumb
Doctors aren’t buying and selling these organs lmao. 2 Ibuprofens don’t cost like 20 bucks in the hospital because of supply and demand. So dumb
Posted on 6/23/19 at 12:22 pm to MSTiger33
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No, but I believe you should be compensated for organ donation.
Do they send the money to your forwarding address
Posted on 6/23/19 at 12:22 pm to DavidTheGnome
from a voice of experience, be extremely careful and completely understand what you are agreeing to with organ donor programs, ask a lot of questions, it’s not as easy emotionally and financially as simply marking a box on your DL at the DMV, you have entered the portal to emotional hell.
take a look at the old movie “coma” for a look at the reality of modern day organ donation and organ replacement, it’s a business plain and simple...
take a look at the old movie “coma” for a look at the reality of modern day organ donation and organ replacement, it’s a business plain and simple...
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 6/23/19 at 12:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
Get thefrick out with that third world bullshyt. Folks have been killed mainly cause they were donors. That donor shyt is a really nasty black market. Legal or not.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 1:10 pm to AMS
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It’s pretty clear that the gnome is well beyond his depths when relating the economics with “doctor’s incentive to kill patients”. Moronic premise. Doctors aren’t buying and selling these organs lmao. 2 Ibuprofens don’t cost like 20 bucks in the hospital because of supply and demand. So dumb
Thanks. I’m glad that at least some people on here are not too dense to understand this. Lol
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:57 pm to weadjust
To your estate
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 9:58 pm
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