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re: Should JBE promote monoclonal antibodies more, like DeSantis and Abbot?

Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:29 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:29 am to
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The correct answer, which you will NEVER admit:

Is to use ALL things at our disposal. That includes:

1) Getting as many people vaccinated as possible
2) Getting updated vaccinations if necessary
3) Using all available prophylactics for at risk groups
4) Using all available treatments like mAb for those infected that are at risk of severe cases



I totally admit it.

Now balance that with freedom. (But that is a subject for a different thread).
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:30 am to
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I have not heard of any pushback against the mAb infusions and I run among a few anti-vaxx tribes (lol).



not shocking that morons are inconsistent with their "beliefs"

but the pushback isn't because they are "anti-infusion", the pushback is that they wait too late because symptoms for COVID often don't worsen until 5-7 days after initial symptoms appear
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:32 am to
Honestly, it makes sense why the unvaxxed arent coming in for the infusions

Their entire reason for not getting the vaccine is "im healthy, I will only have a minor case of covid"

Then when they test positive, they are having no symptoms yet or very minor symptoms, in their mind they were correct about their case so why would they go in for an infusion?

Now vaxxed people come in becuase their logic train is "yeh I may not need the infusion but why not?"
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:32 am to
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not shocking that morons are inconsistent with their "beliefs"


I'm sure your beliefs are the paragon of truth...to you.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:34 am to
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not shocking that morons are inconsistent with their "beliefs"


Nobody should be shocked that some people would prefer a lab created concoction of antibodies versus versus antibodies created by ones own body. Just read a few threads here daily and you quickly realize how ill-informed many are.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:34 am to
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Their entire reason for not getting the vaccine is "im healthy, I will only have a minor case of covid"

Then when they test positive, they are having no symptoms yet or very minor symptoms, in their mind they were correct about their case so why would they go in for an infusion?


this was the fight with my parents

I think the only reason my Dad agreed to it was because my Mom having ashthma really worried him and he knew she would only get the treatment if he got it
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:35 am to
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Then when they test positive, they are having no symptoms yet or very minor symptoms, in their mind they were correct about their case so why would they go in for an infusion?



Or they are not comfortable with the mRNA technology versus mAb technology.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13286 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:36 am to
Yes...I have no problem with people promoting vaccines and they SHOULD be promoting vaccines. But's assinine that that's the only thing that's being promoted. It's not vaccine or vent contrary to what they're saying
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:39 am to
It's not the only thing that's being promoted. It's being used.

But one fact does remain, the vaccine costs anywhere from $8 to $36 per dose. Monoclonal infusions cost upwards of $2K.

Stands to reason they'd be prefer, as should any responsible adult not wanting to see healthcare costs rise, for people to use prevention rather than cure.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:44 am to
Let me get this straight...

Hell no on Vax - no telling what gov't is putting in you

Hell yes to monoclonal antibodies - love what gov't is putting in you

That is not absurd at all. The sheep are getting confused.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:47 am to
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But one fact does remain, the vaccine costs anywhere from $8 to $36 per dose. Monoclonal infusions cost upwards of $2K.

Stands to reason they'd be prefer, as should any responsible adult not wanting to see healthcare costs rise, for people to use prevention rather than cure.



obviously Florida and Texas are in bed with big pharma and are actively pushing the more expensive treatment to line their pockets
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127909 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:00 am to
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But one fact does remain, the vaccine costs anywhere from $8 to $36 per dose. Monoclonal infusions cost upwards of $2K.



This has to be a huge factor.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3402 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Or they are not comfortable with the mRNA technology versus mAb technology.

Because of course, they have esoteric knowledge of how each work, learned from posts coming from sock puppet accounts on facebook or random posts on message boards.

Most every colleague I discuss this issue with is referring persons with positive tests for MAB infusion and it is not really hard to find something on the list that will qualify. Problem is many flat out refuse, or just don't show up to the facility to get it done.

And BTW, where did you get the idea that the Pfizer/BNT vaccine is not the one that has FDA approval and/or is not available? Comirnaty is the trade name of the Pfizer/BNT vaccine (Covid-19 immunity, mRNA).

And yes, the vaccines will keep most everyone receiving them from admission, and for persons who like the idea of being injected with an inactivated virus with a snippet of DS DNA for the spike protein engineered into it instead of a snippet of mRNA, there is the JNJ vaccine. And just to be clear, that DS DNA once intercalated into the cell nucleus codes for, you guessed it...mRNA which then is translated into the spike protein.
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