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re: Should I email my old boss?

Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:12 am to
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Nope. Never burn business bridges, even if you think you'll never need them again or left on somewhat bad terms.



This.

You pretty much have nothing to gain from this.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37995 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:16 am to
quote:

I'd like to hear the companies side of the story


"it takes him too long to do anything. We got tired of the incessant emails. Hopefully he won't contact us."
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17501 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:20 am to
I skimmed.

You should email as a consultant. Better call
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:50 am to
quote:

So what would you do?



At this point, whatever you do, don't trust him. Give him a very short time to consider your offer and then go over his head to the top.

I can't imagine the owner, after seeing what you just wrote, and proof backing it up, would not fire the GM on the spot.

Again, this is assuming you are being truthful and have all your documents backing this up!

BTW, is this a company like Lamar? I could care less, but you got me thinking of who are the larger ad companies that go coast to coast.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:58 am to
Sounds like they are very inefficient.

Become a competitor. Put them out of business.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Become a competitor. Put them out of business.


You must have missed the part where they're a national, multimillion dollar ad agency.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31815 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I am sorry but I just cannot believe they let you go if you were really that great


I agree. There has to be more to it than that, unless it was totally financial and if so, the company must already be pretty far gone....
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:08 am to
You want to do consultant work for a company that laid you off, by your own admission has terrible management, has no chance of turning an actual profit, and will close its doors within eighteen months because they are hemorrhaging money from bad contracts that cost them millions and have no chance of getting out from under?

You should pursue this. I'm sure that "boom" email will really stick it to him when he is filling a box with his belongings after they inevitably fold.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:08 am to
Is THE GM banging the chick he promoted?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:09 am to
quote:

After hearing this, I want to email the GM and offer consulting services to him. They are clearly struggling and need help. I know he's too egotistical to accept the offer though, but it gives me the opportunity to passively rub his decision in his face.

I know it's not professional, but I really don't care. I'll never need or use him as a resource and odds are the company will fold in a year. On top of that, I'm in school and completely changing industries anyway
I'm not suggesting you do it, but if you are going to do it, what would be the point of doing it passively?

Just be direct, tell him how you really feel...if you're going to do it.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Not trying to be a dick but you seem to think you're irreplaceable.


From what I've read, his former employer seems pretty incapable of replacing him soooooo.....
Posted by Kadjin
edge of the basin
Member since Oct 2013
1291 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28874 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

So here's the deal. I spent 4.5 years with this company managing 2 departments. In this time I managed both departments under budget for the first time in company history and reduced overall operational cost by almost 60%.

This company does advertising. They also have a network of LCD screens that span from coast to coast used for advertising and all managed from a central location. This network was 100% my responsibility.

When I arrived at the company, it was a complete mess. It took me a solid year to clean things up. By the time I was done I had the network at a 99.996% uptime! which is quite the achievement.

During this time I was consistently undermined by the GM of the company. I brought numerous improvements and business plans showing ROI to him over the years only for him to discount them and blow me off. He was a sales person, I'm an engineer. Very different personalities.
Needless to say, we didn't see eye to eye, and it was clear he didn't like me. This also happens frequently with him, the arse kissers get promoted in this company.

Long story short, I was laid off the week prior to Thanksgiving last year. I was told the reason was because they were outsourcing my duties.

In this 4 month gap, they still haven't outsourced anything. In fact, my duties were passed off to our business systems manager. This person knows nothing about electronics or even computers. While I was there, they asked me to train her to be my backup. I then attempted to and reported to them that she wasn't competent enough for the duties and didn't possess the required knowledge.
How did they respond to that? They promote her and I'm then told I'll be reporting to her. WTF?

Anyway, she has completely run the network into the ground. In 4 months, they have spent more than my annual salary trying to fill the void and fix her mistakes. I know this because I'm still close to a lot of people within the company.

The content management software we used while I was there was complete garbage. I pushed for 3 years to have it replaced and spent 18 months testing replacement software. At the end, I found the ideal software for us and negotiated a contract with the company that would have them host the server in the could, set it all up, import schedules and content, deploy the software to all units in the field, all for the same price as our annual license for the current software we all hated. It got shot down.

Low and behold, 2 months before I was laid off, the GM comes to me and says he found some replacement software and that we are moving forward with it. He then turned it over to me to facilitate this and handle the project, then told me it had to be complete by February. He left me with 12 weeks to test, iron out issues, plan, and deploy this. Again, WTF?

When the software was introduced to me, they asked me to do a comparison in detail to the current software. No problem, I nailed It out.
The big difference was that the old software ran in Windows, the new software runs on Linux. Luckily for them, I spec'd all of the computers with this foresight because I wanted to move everything to Linux and I told them this.

So I found out tonight that they new software was never deployed and they scrapped the entire project this week because they just figured out that it doesn't run on Windows. I can't fathom how it took them 6 months to realize this when I told them 6 months ago and they have been working with it this entire time. How does the business systems manager not know this?

After hearing this, I want to email the GM and offer consulting services to him. They are clearly struggling and need help. I know he's too egotistical to accept the offer though, but it gives me the opportunity to passively rub his decision in his face.

I know it's not professional, but I really don't care. I'll never need or use him as a resource and odds are the company will fold in a year. On top of that, I'm in school and completely changing industries anyway.

So what would you do?



TLDR, my old boss is a douche and everyone is laughing at him. Should I make contact to gloat?


Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9781 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:50 am to
The problem here was linux, nobody wants to mess with that.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22115 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:53 am to
You got fired. Likely because of whiney bitchy shite like this post. If they wanted you, you'd be there.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8526 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Low and behold,


I do not think this is right.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Dude was probably an egotistical a-hole that always claimed to have the right answer. This alienated him from Sr. Management.


This. Even if he did do all he claimed, they probably just didn't want to put up with his shite anymore.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:39 am to
OP,

You already won man. No rubbing in needed. If the company does fold, he will have to look back and figure out why, at which point he will be either too stupid to find the reason or come to terms he let a great asset go. Either way, you ultimately won because you no longer have to work for a tard nugget and you are watching what you helped create crumble in your absence. I had a similar situation once, but as bad I wanted to go back and say "Hey a-hole, miss me yet?", I didn't. I always felt great about what I accomplished though and knowing he couldnt effect me anymore made me realize I had it great while he was still struggling with his miserable existence.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Move on with my life.


This.

Unless you are trying to get back in, why on earth do you care about what happens to them?

You're wasting too much mental energy on this.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:50 am to
No, you gloated plenty in the post so another gloat to the boss would make you look like an over-gloater.

You nailed it so just do a walk-off.
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