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re: Shooter reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School: At least 9 dead

Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
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I was speaking to the widely held misunderstanding regarding the average person believing that they are rights granted from the government to it’s citizens, which they are not.


Except they are? Again, they were debated and voted on by the government.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Interesting.

Kind of messes up the high capacity narrative.

Assuming he had a standard shotgun, he could have had no more than 11 shells/bullets available at one time with both weapons fully loaded.


Not necessarily. Cruz killed 17 and wounded 17 more with a single AR-15.

This guy killed 10 and wounded 10 more with two weapons.

That being said, at least we won't hear about AR-15s relentlessly after this shooting.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:20 pm to
I heard he had a Shotgun, Rifle and 4 Wheel Drive
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:21 pm to
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What are the positives that outweigh the negative?


TigerDroppings?
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:21 pm to
News just said shotgun and .38 cal revolver.
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:22 pm to
Regular .38 cal revolver and shotgun or assault models?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
Someone on another thread posted this

quote:

Reply Quote From my cousin: He came into the art class, rumors has it he was pissed because another kid was talking to his girlfriend, my stepson was his first shot.


I'm not sure I buy it, because this kid just doesn't seem like a guy to have a girlfriend.. but who knows.. He just seems like a complete loner. Also, you don't bring bombs and stuff over this..


Side note, should schools ban trench coats? I am not for bans/strict dress codes.. but I think this would be valid.. I mean they say he wore it ALL the time.. so it could have been a way to eventually pull something like this off.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Regular .38 cal revolver and shotgun or assault models?


Double Barrel AR-15
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26262 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:24 pm to
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The attacker was armed with an AR-15-style rifle, a pistol, a shotgun and pipe bombs, the official said.

OP needs to be updated.

quote:

Abbott said earlier reports that the shooter used an AR-15 style rifle were wrong.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:24 pm to
So I'm not reading this thread, can someone answer these questions:

1. How old was the shooter?
2. Did he act alone?
3. Where did he get the guns?
4. Why types of guns and how many?
5. Are the bomb stories true or just bad early information?
6. Were there obvious signs that people missed? Or was this a normal kid and everyone is shocked?
7. How many people killed?
8. How many people injured?
9. Is the shooter alive?
10. Is the shooter talking?
11. Do we know a motive?



Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23248 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
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1. How old was the shooter? 17
2. Did he act alone? TBD
3. Where did he get the guns? Dad
4. Why types of guns and how many? 2. 12 guage and .38
5. Are the bomb stories true or just bad early information? True
6. Were there obvious signs that people missed? Or was this a normal kid and everyone is shocked? DOn't know
7. How many people killed? 10
8. How many people injured? 10
9. Is the shooter alive? Yes
10. Is the shooter talking? :shrugs:
11. Do we know a motive? No
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42272 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Side note, should schools ban trench coats? I am not for bans/strict dress codes..


Honestly, at this point, there really isn’t a need for a backpack either. Students should be able to access their books online from home.

So a strict dress code and no backpacks would give these warped kids nowhere to hide the weapons.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
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UPDATE 2:28 p.m.: In addition to John Barnes, the Santa Fe school police officer who engaged the shooter, a Texas state trooper also did so, sheriff's officials told reporters.

quote:

John Barnes, a Sante Fe school police officer and former Houston police detective, was in surgery at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.
Posted by mikeboss550
Member since Apr 2013
10991 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
1. How old was the shooter?17
2. Did he act alone? Maybe
3. Where did he get the guns? Took them from dad
4. Why types of guns and how many? .38 revolver and shotgun
5. Are the bomb stories true or just bad early information? True
6. Were there obvious signs that people missed? Or was this a normal kid and everyone is shocked? One girl said he was a sweet kid...cops said he kept a private journal expressing tendencies
7. How many people killed? 10
8. How many people injured? 10
9. Is the shooter alive? Yes
10. Is the shooter talking? Id assume so
11. Do we know a motive? Not as of now offically
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Honestly, at this point, there really isn’t a need for a backpack either. Students should be able to access their books online from home.


They're phasing out lockers at my son's junior high school.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
frick that little bitch. Should've just had the balls to shoot himself in his bedroom instead of this.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
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The only good thing about shotguns is the majority don't have high round magazines but there are some out there.


Im buying the 12 Ga. Remington 870 DM Predator before this coming hunting season. Currently available with 3 and 6 round magazines. I would imagine some 3rd party will create larger mags for it.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:30 pm to
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John Barnes, a Sante Fe school police officer and former Houston police detective, was in surgery at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.




A hero that probably saved lot of lives. This man's picture needs to be all over the news. Not the greek frick.

He got shot like 3 minutes after the first call about a shooting based on the timeline. Dude didn't frick around or pussy out like the folks in Parkland. Cops also got into the school 7 minutes after initial call.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:36 pm to
Great answers!
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:39 pm to
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Side note, should schools ban trench coats? I am not for bans/strict dress codes..
in fing late may on the gulf coast yes.......
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