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re: Shell to generate electricity from Mississippi River currents!
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:58 pm to Shexter
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:58 pm to Shexter
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could produce about 35 kilowatts per hour
What in the flying cornbread frick is it gonna take for us to get these damn electrical nerds to use correct units?
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:00 pm to billjamin
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That seems really low
A 35kW natural gas turbine would be about the size of a garbage can and be WAY more reliable than this fairy dust project will ever be. It's fricking stupid. The amount of shite we waste on these feel good greenie weenie projects is absolutely atrocious
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:01 pm to Cycledude
There's a new company trying to do this every decade.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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A 35kW natural gas turbine would be about the size of a garbage can and be WAY more reliable than this fairy dust project will ever be. It's fricking stupid. The amount of shite we waste on these feel good greenie weenie projects is absolutely atrocious
I don’t mind trying, it’s how we innovate and move forward. This one seems pretty problematic but lots of things seemed that way at some point.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:04 pm to WhereisAtlanta
yup. gotta have enough gradient for it to work
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:13 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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flying cornbread frick
I'll commit that to my memory bank. I like it.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:20 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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The most efficient way is the smart way to make electricity
fa
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everything else is virtue signaling bull shite.
Really?
Of note, however, is that California does not consider power generated from large hydroelectric facilities (facilities greater than 30 megawatts) to meet its strictest definition of "renewable", due to concerns over the environmental impact of large hydroelectric projects.
- wiki
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:24 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Well they are starting off small. If it’s successful, they will expand. I hope it works. It’s worked other places.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:34 pm to achenator
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This will be interesting with all the logs and drift that come down the river.
Saw a doc about someone trying this on a small scale in the hudson. Idea obviously worked, but clogged up with shite in about 10 minutes.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:42 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Hydro is a perfectly fine source, but how will you power the grid with hydro? It's not possible. It is a great, reliable supplemental source.
WildTchoupitoulas
Fossil always has done a remarkable job. Once polticians get involved, good logic falls by the wayside and we get solar panels and windmills. Once again, those are fine if used as supplemental power.
The grid needs on demand sources (fossil fuel) that follows the load demand.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:47 pm to Shexter
We need more geographical supplemental alternative power options like this.
I will get blasted but what’s wrong with a simple hydroelectric generator in a river, a windmill offshore, or a geothermal well? It’s purely supplemental.
Fusion will be the end all solution but that’s still 50 years away. Renewables will NEVER fully power our old arse grids.
I will get blasted but what’s wrong with a simple hydroelectric generator in a river, a windmill offshore, or a geothermal well? It’s purely supplemental.
Fusion will be the end all solution but that’s still 50 years away. Renewables will NEVER fully power our old arse grids.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:52 pm to Shexter
I can't wait to see one of those magnet fishermen dudes on YouTube hook onto one of those deals. I think they're gonna need a bigger magnet.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:02 pm to Cycledude
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As strong as those currents are, I wonder why this hasn’t been done before?
Because it’s damn expensive to install and maintain
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:02 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I was there last month. There is definitely an elevation drop. I even climbed the hill to get onto the walk way where this photo was taken on the Pat Tillman bridge.
I went on the dam tour where they take you in an elevator from the top of the dam to the power station level a drop of about 500 to 600 feet. I walked into the generator room and saw the row of generator working and they had one out that they were working on. They are so heavy that they use the two cranes that they have on a track above the generators to maintenance them.
Hoover Dam is made out of solid concrete and lacks rebar because they thought rebar would eventually rust and weaken the dam. It is so well built expected to last 2-3 thousand years.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:09 pm to Trevaylin
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fish are gonna die from impeller bashing
Just put chicken wire around it, baw.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:28 pm to Tantal
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Just put chicken wire around it, baw.
Light bulbs stacked
River catfish fricked
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:33 pm to Eighteen
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and at what cost to get up and running, deliver, and maintain?
None of these factor into Shell's decisions as long as it is favorable for ESG.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:43 pm to Cycledude
funny, i've been saying for years they should do this...
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:51 pm to chRxis
If it made economical sense to do it, the river would be filled with them.
It doesn't. Even with extreme subsidizing it's a losing proposition.
It doesn't. Even with extreme subsidizing it's a losing proposition.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:what are they getting? I’m just curious if they’re getting doe grants, tax credits etc.
Even with extreme subsidizing it's a losing proposition.
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