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re: Shell considering $1.2 billion expansion in Geismar

Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:41 pm to
Social justice warriors about to get ITEP triggered
Posted by absolute692
US of A, MFer
Member since Feb 2007
4004 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:43 pm to
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They just did a major turnaround in FCCU



Yea, I think that was just fixing the patching since that turnaround wasn't expected to happen several years ago when you would engineer/design the improvements. I know part of that turnaround was maintenance work discovered in the actual turnaround, which is something you would never plan for.

Next turnaround I would expect to see some bigger projects associated with it.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5374 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Mono-ethylene glycol is antifreeze



Made with Ethylene Oxide which is a carcinogen.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30188 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:56 pm to
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23 permanent jobs?
Is it worth the tax break they are getting?
You have to wonder.


Yeah, 23 permanent jobs hardly justifies a tax credit. A Chickfila provides more jobs than that.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39311 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:00 pm to
Hopefully the area sonic has room for all the baws knuckle checkin after their shift ends
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103829 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Some operatin motherfrickers gonna run a $1.3b unit with 23 hands

Must gonna have Birdseed runnin crews




He still won’t get his foreman pay or a company truck
Posted by Dmaxxx37
Member since Apr 2017
125 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:29 pm to
Wrong. T/A was planned as part of general maintenance, as they are every 4 years due to instrumentation/rotating equipment/catalyst change-out, etc PM's. There has always been a list of items to be attended to during the case of a non-scheduled outage, had nothing to do with "patching." Not sure how much project or T/A experience you have, but there is ALWAYS a contingency built in for discovery work, which is always expected.. Projects & T/A's are two completely different entities and will never be combined.. Stick to the field and we'll handle the Engineering/Management..
Posted by absolute692
US of A, MFer
Member since Feb 2007
4004 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:23 pm to
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Dmaxxx37


Obviously maintenance is planned every so often based on the unit. But the fact remains FCCU wasn’t planned to be running long term, so major projects for that unit were not implemented in the last turnaround.

That was my only point. I expect that to change for the next FCCU turnaround.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61779 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Obviously maintenance is planned every so often based on the unit. But the fact remains FCCU wasn’t planned to be running long term, so major projects for that unit were not implemented in the last turnaround.



This is somewhat correct. Until late last year, the plan was to mothball the FCCU at Convent and send feed to Norco via the new pipeline.

Shell changed their mind and the refinery went into a full TA this summer including head off. Lot's of major items were replaced and worked on and some EPA required projects were done.
From what I heard, that event was well over $100 million and it's expected the unit will run for five more years until the next one.

Posted by MAUCKjersey1
Member since Aug 2005
3667 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:51 pm to
They also will be building a world scale MEG2 unit after this one is complete...been working on the early phase engineering for both
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Some operatin motherfrickers gonna run a $1.3b unit with 23 hands


46 hands. Barring a hire that's missing an arm.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9390 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:58 pm to
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Shell Chemical LP is considering a $1.2 billion expansion of its Geismar facilities,

Big word with lots of wiggle room
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15769 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:06 pm to
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Yay, come rape what's left of our state

You dumb frick. Do you realize how lucky y'all are to have that industry down there? I got my feet wet down there, and am thankful for the state of Louisiana and the plant I operated at for giving me a chance. When push came to shove though, I moved back home and got into operations here. The plants here suck compared to how good y'all have it there though. Seriously, y'all should be damn thankful to have such a robust industrial sector.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:08 pm to
Truck nuts for every Shane around
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59344 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:10 pm to
You’re doubling down on your stupidity
Posted by MAUCKjersey1
Member since Aug 2005
3667 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:21 pm to
Yes but this project WILL happen. They have their A team in Houston on the project and the VIR is too good to pass up. Project will be around $800MM
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Dmaxxx37
Member since Apr 2017
125 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:50 pm to
Correct. Conceptual Design and Feasibility are complete and project is now in FEE stage. With all of the cash being spent you'd atleast think they would 4-lane Ashland road to help alleviate some of the traffic problems but.. Not on the priority list-
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79784 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:52 pm to
Haven't kept up with AP politics, but what happened to the truckway that was going to happen from Hwy44 to Ashland? Was going to cross in the area of RPCC.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14716 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:58 pm to
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A team in Houston

so you only relocated, didnt change companies?
Posted by Dmaxxx37
Member since Apr 2017
125 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:00 pm to
Haven't heard anything about it in a while.. They did end up widening 30 from Ashland to the interstate but.. With the amount of plant traffic letting out at the same time in the general area from 3 to 5, the whole area is a nightmare. I'm all for the tax incentives, but atleast throw an initiative in there to make everyone succumb to some infrastructure improvements..
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