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re: Share of young adults, especially women, who are "unlikely" to have kids is surging

Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:37 am to
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:37 am to
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No child is a burden on anyone - that refutes your argument


You conveniently ignored that I was speaking from a FINANCIAL perspective.

You aren't arguing in good faith.

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You actually think a city should have nothing but small compact cars and bikes and single people and DINKs. Thats a horrible society that provides nothing to the world


Gross oversimplification of my views.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1341 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:37 am to
Have you considered adoption?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:39 am to
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ou conveniently ignored that I was speaking from a FINANCIAL perspective.


Still not true and its an ignorant sick way to look at the world

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Gross oversimplification of my views.


Please tell us where I'm wrong
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5900 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:43 am to
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Idk because African Americans are still having tons of kids and they vote overwhelmingly democrati


Their birthrates have dropped pretty dramatically also. Hispanic birth rate is going up
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26639 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:50 am to
They’ve been programmed to think this way. Simpletons think everything their overlords tell them to think.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9542 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:42 am to
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Their birthrates have dropped pretty dramatically also.


Get your facts and data out of here dude. This board only does MUH FEELS.

LINK - Wordlwide Fertility Rates

The indisputable fact is that as countries attain first-world status and women are granted more rights and attain education, the birth rates plummet.

The OT will cope and seethe but it won't change the reality of the situation.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24995 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 10:45 am to
$1800/month per kid is fairly standard rate in DFW.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:12 am to
we already knew a certain faction of y'all hate when people have children in a single parent home, or if they are born out of wedlock, etc.....

now y'all are up in arms because people are deciding to be responsible and NOT have kids, if they make a choice to not have kids??

pick a fricking lane....
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58712 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:13 am to
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The indisputable fact is that as countries attain first-world status and women are granted more rights and attain education, the birth rates plummet.



Yep. Thanks for posting that link. Good stuff
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9542 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 11:19 am to
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we already knew a certain faction of y'all hate when people have children in a single parent home, or if they are born out of wedlock, etc.....

now y'all are up in arms because people are deciding to be responsible and NOT have kids, if they make a choice to not have kids??

pick a fricking lane....


Yep. This board is schizo about every single topic and will be on both sides of any issue depending on the thread.

Cut your own grass? you are a filthy poor.

A different thread -- pay someone to cut your grass? you a soyboy cuck that can't do real man work.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 12:43 pm to
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This board is schizo about every single topic and will be on both sides of any issue depending on the thread.


yet, their head is so far up their own arse they can't see it, and it's so exhausting
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40636 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Have you considered adoption?


Yea. My wife has 4 adopted siblings so she would be on board and me looking at their family dynamic from the outiside have seen the good and bad from it.

My wife has about 6 months until she graduates so we took a little break from trying. I think we'll start talking adoption and IVF more seriously here soon. Louisiana has some seriously dumb adoption laws that can screw adopting parents over so that has me slightly hesitant with that though. You could have a kid for years and if a the mother changes her mind and wants her kid back, in Louisiana, she could too easily get the kid back.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5900 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:18 pm to
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The indisputable fact is that as countries attain first-world status and women are granted more rights and attain education, the birth rates plummet.


yea but it doesn't have to be this way. The Dakotas, the hispanics in Texas, and the Catholics in LA and the Mormons in Utah have a birthrates that are plenty high enough if the whole country would follow suit

Modern feminism, "Boss Babe" culture, and the way mainstream media culture looks down on families and especially stay at home moms with lots of kids contribute to the problem
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18875 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:32 pm to
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There’s nothing wrong with people not wanting kids. It’s better for everyone if they don’t have them, rather than having kids they didn’t want in the first place.


Agreed. The problem is these people are usually educated and do well professionally. The people who have 10 kids are poor and dumb.

Idiocracy is upon us.

We should incentivize poor men to get vasectomies and wealthy people to have children. But noooooo, that's "wrong" to some people.

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5900 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:38 pm to
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The people who have 10 kids are poor and dumb.


stfu. I know at least 30 families who have 10+ kids and none are poor or dumb. They might live modestly because they have so many kids but that is what they chose and i applaud them for it
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5056 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:40 pm to
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I know at least 30 families who have 10+ kids


The frick you live, Utah?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9020 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Modern feminism, "Boss Babe" culture, and the way mainstream media culture looks down on families and especially stay at home moms with lots of kids contribute to the problem


I live in what the perhaps the most "liberal" area of any city in America, Fort Greene/Williamsburg in Brooklyn.

You certainly have a lot more women here that would rather have a music career that includes a lot of travel or whatever and do not want kids.

However, what you hear time and again from people is still the financial impact of having kids. So many friends of mine are like my business partner who came from a big family and loves kids but he and his wife decided that 1 kid was as much as the could handle financially.

Not sure feminism has as much to do with it as "culture war" pot stirrers want to claim.

Has much more to do with the financial necessity of both partners working coupled with the lack of decent job opportunities to "just move" that people had in the 1950s-70s when small town America actually had factories that meant good jobs were readily available outside of major cities.

This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5900 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:58 pm to
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However, what you hear time and again from people is still the financial impact of having kids. So many friends of mine are like my business partner, came from a big family and loves kids but he and his wife decided that 1 kid was as much as the could handle financially.

Not sure feminism has a much to do with it as "culture war" pot stirrers want to claim.

Has much more to do with the financial necessity of both partners working coupled with the lack of decent job opportunities to "just move" that people had in the 1950s-70s when small town America actually had factories that meant good jobs were readily available outside of major cities.


Part of this is true but part of it is just excuses to have more money for lifestyles people enjoy. I know plenty of people who are pulling in 200k+ that live in low cost of living areas that only have 2 kids just because they want more expendable income to go to Europe in the summer or the wife doesn't want have to lose her baby weight again
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53612 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Agreed. The problem is these people are usually educated and do well professionally.


Maybe but if they had kids they probably wouldn’t be doing as well
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168633 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Boss Babe" culture


We gonna do this again ? This board is such a fishbowl sometimes.
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